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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6618346" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>I noticed the Shield Mastery feat, but since he's a fighter he should have one additional feat that he got at 6th level, which the paladin doesn't have.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, thanks for clarifying that they're not fighting each other. Menacing strike is a pretty good defensive ability, and distracting strike could be useful for making sure the paladin hits. You'd have to ask the fighter's PC what he's trying to be the best at, but it appears to be "best at protecting people and working in a team." He's clearly not built to be a solo character (or he wouldn't have taken distracting strike in the first place) so it's not fair to measure him in isolation. Is his player happy with him? If not, I can suggest some choices that would improve him, but even as-is he already has a better AC and more attacks than the paladin, and he's probably going to be better than the paladin at fighting off a horde of kobolds. The paladin is a better healer, but his healing is more valuable when he spends it on the fighter instead of himself. For example, 55 HP of healing negates 53 kobold-rounds of attacks on the paladin, but 63 kobold-rounds of attacks on the fighter. Ergo the fighter should be on the front line for fights with kobolds.</p><p></p><p><strong>Edited to add:</strong> the difference would be even larger if they'd both put on plate armor. In that case, the paladin would get 63 kobold-rounds and the fighter would get 84.</p><p></p><p><strong>Edit2:</strong> you asked for someone to "run the numbers" and I'm willing to, if you specify what numbers you want run. Solo fights or kobold hordes? Something else?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6618346, member: 6787650"] I noticed the Shield Mastery feat, but since he's a fighter he should have one additional feat that he got at 6th level, which the paladin doesn't have. Anyway, thanks for clarifying that they're not fighting each other. Menacing strike is a pretty good defensive ability, and distracting strike could be useful for making sure the paladin hits. You'd have to ask the fighter's PC what he's trying to be the best at, but it appears to be "best at protecting people and working in a team." He's clearly not built to be a solo character (or he wouldn't have taken distracting strike in the first place) so it's not fair to measure him in isolation. Is his player happy with him? If not, I can suggest some choices that would improve him, but even as-is he already has a better AC and more attacks than the paladin, and he's probably going to be better than the paladin at fighting off a horde of kobolds. The paladin is a better healer, but his healing is more valuable when he spends it on the fighter instead of himself. For example, 55 HP of healing negates 53 kobold-rounds of attacks on the paladin, but 63 kobold-rounds of attacks on the fighter. Ergo the fighter should be on the front line for fights with kobolds. [B]Edited to add:[/B] the difference would be even larger if they'd both put on plate armor. In that case, the paladin would get 63 kobold-rounds and the fighter would get 84. [B]Edit2:[/B] you asked for someone to "run the numbers" and I'm willing to, if you specify what numbers you want run. Solo fights or kobold hordes? Something else? [/QUOTE]
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