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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6645817" data-attributes="member: 53980">50 hobgoblins is an incredibly deadly fight for even a 20th level character. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing inherently wrong with doing that, but by PEL it's 288% of a deadly encounter. So I think that's about right. If you wade in, you might win if you're lucky, but it's going to hurt, and victory is dubious. If you use guerrilla tactics to whittle them down, your odds are far better.Plus, hobgoblins are a bit of an outlier since they have high damage and AC for their CR. Against gnolls or orcs (CR 1/2, just like the hobgoblins) this guy would have better odds.In any case, 20 hobgoblins would be a more DMG-appropriate (but still deadly) encounter for a 20th level fighter, and in that case you're taking (with Adamantine Armor/without) about 12/24 damage in round one, 7/15 in round 2, 2/5 in round 3, and they're all dead by round 4. Total of 21/44 damage. That assumes both a white room and that the fighter loses initiative, of course. I freely admit that there are many factors that could make this scenario turn out dramatically differently.That's fair. I like to mix it up. Some adventure days are one high-deadly encounter, while others are a series of mixed encounters. That way I keep the players guessing, and they're discouraged from novaing. FWIW IME, easy (and oftentimes medium) encounters are brief, 5 minute encounters.</blockquote>