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Barbarian: Enhanced Vitality is....pretty bad.
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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8477499" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>I'll look through the MM for you (just for damaging effects, not for abilities that inflict conditions).</p><p></p><p><strong>Mental Saves for Half Damage</strong></p><p>Amethyst dragon's <em>Breath Weapon </em>(Wis)</p><p>Coven Night Hag's <em>Fragmentary Dream </em>(Wis)</p><p>Emerald dragon's <em>Breath Weapon </em>(Wis)</p><p>Murmuring worm's <em>Murmuring Madness </em>(Int)</p><p>Nalfeshnee's<em> Chaos Blast </em>(Wis)</p><p>Revenant's <em>Burning Hatred </em>(Wis)</p><p>Sapphire dragon's <em>Breath Weapon </em>(Int) and <em>Psionic Wave </em>(Wis)</p><p>Shadow dragon's <em>Breath Weapon </em>(Wis)</p><p>Solar Counselor's <em>Light of Judgement (Cha)</em></p><p>Ur-Otyugh's <em>Mental Fuzz </em>(Int)</p><p></p><p><strong>Mental Saves for No Damage</strong></p><p>Ancient Aboleth's <em>Look Upon My Works</em>: Wis save, no damage.</p><p>Banshee's <em>Presage Death</em>: Wis save, no damage.</p><p>Chain Devil's <em>Unnerving Mask</em>: Wis save, no damage.</p><p>Khalakos' <em>Psionic Sting</em>: Int save, no damage.</p><p>Forgotten God's <em>Stunning Gaze: </em>Cha save, no damage.</p><p>Horde Demon's <em>Baleful Eyes</em> or <em>Whispering Mouth</em>: Wis save, no damage.</p><p>Intellect Devourer's <em>Ego Whip</em>: Int save for damage instead of basically death.</p><p>Revilock's <em>Shared Pain</em>: Int save, no damage.</p><p>Sea Hag's <em>Death Glare: </em>Wis save for damage instead of death.</p><p>Solar's <em>Deafening Command: </em>Cha save, no damage.</p><p>Solar Counselor's <em>Divine Command: </em>Cha save, no damage.</p><p></p><p><strong>Mental Save Spells that Inflict Half Damage</strong></p><p>Conjure Fey (hound only) (Wis)</p><p>Eldritch Cube (Int)</p><p>Phantasmal Killer (on initial save only) (Wis)</p><p>Spirit Guardians (Wis)</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p>So all-in-all, <em>slightly </em>less bad than you were thinking, but still pretty bad. At this point, I think I'd change the ability so that you can always use it for one of those stats, but 1/short or long rest you can also use it for any mental save you want, no matter the stat, even if it doesn't deal damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8477499, member: 6915329"] I'll look through the MM for you (just for damaging effects, not for abilities that inflict conditions). [B]Mental Saves for Half Damage[/B] Amethyst dragon's [I]Breath Weapon [/I](Wis) Coven Night Hag's [I]Fragmentary Dream [/I](Wis) Emerald dragon's [I]Breath Weapon [/I](Wis) Murmuring worm's [I]Murmuring Madness [/I](Int) Nalfeshnee's[I] Chaos Blast [/I](Wis) Revenant's [I]Burning Hatred [/I](Wis) Sapphire dragon's [I]Breath Weapon [/I](Int) and [I]Psionic Wave [/I](Wis)[I][/I] Shadow dragon's [I]Breath Weapon [/I](Wis) Solar Counselor's [I]Light of Judgement (Cha)[/I] Ur-Otyugh's [I]Mental Fuzz [/I](Int) [B]Mental Saves for No Damage[/B] Ancient Aboleth's [I]Look Upon My Works[/I]: Wis save, no damage. Banshee's [I]Presage Death[/I]: Wis save, no damage. Chain Devil's [I]Unnerving Mask[/I]: Wis save, no damage. Khalakos' [I]Psionic Sting[/I]: Int save, no damage. Forgotten God's [I]Stunning Gaze: [/I]Cha save, no damage. Horde Demon's [I]Baleful Eyes[/I] or [I]Whispering Mouth[/I]: Wis save, no damage. Intellect Devourer's [I]Ego Whip[/I]: Int save for damage instead of basically death. Revilock's [I]Shared Pain[/I]: Int save, no damage. Sea Hag's [I]Death Glare: [/I]Wis save for damage instead of death. Solar's [I]Deafening Command: [/I]Cha save, no damage. Solar Counselor's [I]Divine Command: [/I]Cha save, no damage. [B]Mental Save Spells that Inflict Half Damage[/B] Conjure Fey (hound only) (Wis) Eldritch Cube (Int) Phantasmal Killer (on initial save only) (Wis) Spirit Guardians (Wis) ---------- So all-in-all, [I]slightly [/I]less bad than you were thinking, but still pretty bad. At this point, I think I'd change the ability so that you can always use it for one of those stats, but 1/short or long rest you can also use it for any mental save you want, no matter the stat, even if it doesn't deal damage. [/QUOTE]
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