Barbarian is up!!!

[Rechan]

Hey Guys. Wasn't there supposed to be a feat in this playtest for "Non-martial mutli-classers"?

Also, I'm sad there's no MC feat.

 

[I'm A Banana]

The text says "If the target makes the attack", you get the benefit.

I don't read "Make" as "hits with the attack". Merely, if they attacked at all. So if they miss, you still get it.

No, I read it that way too.

"You should've hit me" would then be followed by an axe to the face. It's a nifty way for a Barbarian to try that whole "if you don't kill me first, you're dead, you know that?" thing. Which is a cool bit of combat RP.

 

[LightPhoenix]

"Thaneblood". Wonder what the hell that is (aside from the other build, obviously).

The article mentioned Charisma as a tertiary ability, especially for some other powers. My guess is it's basically an Intimidating Barbarian, versus a Meat-Shield Barbarian. That also jives with the Dragonborn comment about making good thaneborns barbs.

It also suggests that Half-Orc's do not get Charisma (as well as Con) as a bonus stat, since they don't favor a type.

 

[Rechan]

The reason I think the intention is not to gain the effect of the Daily is so that you can continue using your Dailies but keep the effect of your current Rage. Fighter Stances are often Utilities, so that a Fighter can use most of his attacks with the Stance. Since the Rages are Daily abilities, if you choose the one you want, you kind of get screwed using your Dailies... except for with Rage Strike.

Yes, but then you're using all your dailies.

So unless you're in the Big Boss Fight and don't plan on entering another encounter for the day, you're shootin' your wad early.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

With regards to Frost Wolf's Rage, the effect says "Before the attack, the target can make a melee basic attack against you. If it does, you do 1[w] more cold damage".

I wonder if the target understands that if they make the attack, you do more damage.

If it was used on your PC would you want to know???

What effect would that have on the desission

 

[Rechan]

If it was used on your PC would you want to know???

What effect would that have on the desission

I want to know because I'm usually the DM.

But to answer the question, smarter opponents (or less desperate opponents) might choose not to.

 

[Benimoto]

So why are their at-wills just plain better than almost ever other classes at-wills? You've got howling strike, which does the most damage of any at-will. Then you've got Pressing Strike, which is the best mobility at-will so far and you get to push things, and do extra damage while raging. And then there's Recuperating Strike, which is one of the best temporary HP granting at-wills.

I don't know. It might work out and not be a problem, but my power-creep spidey-sense is tingling.

 

[Asmor]

Yes, but then you're using all your dailies.

So unless you're in the Big Boss Fight and don't plan on entering another encounter for the day, you're shootin' your wad early.

Precisely. But with every other class, they can pile on their dailies as much as they want. For the barbarian, it's really not very efficient to use more than one daily per encounter because a major part of the daily is the ongoing effects which would then be overwritten. Thus, rage strike gives the barbarian the same alpha-strike option that every other class has.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Yes, but then you're using all your dailies.

So unless you're in the Big Boss Fight and don't plan on entering another encounter for the day, you're shootin' your wad early.

I'm not sure it's very different than any other class blowing their wad, especially at lower levels. I can't speak to everyone, but I know personally I tend to horde my Dailies until absolutely necessary. I don't see it being too terribly different with the Barbarian. The only difference is that the Barbarian doesn't get screwed for choosing a rage early on, and then not being able to use more dailies.

 

[I'm A Banana]

If it was used on your PC would you want to know???

Well, I would think the fact that you're making an attack that you normally wouldn't be able to make should raise a red flag or two.

"Okay, it's the orc barbarian's turn. You can make an attack against him if you want."

".....why?"