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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 6180682" data-attributes="member: 3192">Bard as a class is a very hard class to peg. Early on it was a kind of prestige class for Fighter/Thief dual class humans who had progressed over half way in each. The prestige class was taught by Druids and class holders cast druidic spells, performed enchanting music, and learned all sorts of legends/famous rumors about the world. Sort of like the Legend Lore spell.On the other hand, a musician is an NPC class.Then Bard became a kind of jack of all trades class with musical spellcasting and supernatural abilities plus a legends knowledge roll. That morphed into more rogue-like combat and a less defined knowledge roll, keeping the music and magic stuff.I couldn't tell you what to do with the class now. It's oddly far to specialized while trying to be good at everything. It could be a musical caster subclass or an NPC sage class or skald. It appears to have almost completely dropped the religious elements from it's previous incarnation as a cleric subclass for high level. As for a scope of exploration it is definitely a wanderer, but not a specialist. Jack of all trades, no mastery at all, may be the best option. So a core class after all. But with all the work to gain XP it will always be second fiddle to every class it covers, it which all four of the primary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 6180682, member: 3192"] Bard as a class is a very hard class to peg. Early on it was a kind of prestige class for Fighter/Thief dual class humans who had progressed over half way in each. The prestige class was taught by Druids and class holders cast druidic spells, performed enchanting music, and learned all sorts of legends/famous rumors about the world. Sort of like the Legend Lore spell. On the other hand, a musician is an NPC class. Then Bard became a kind of jack of all trades class with musical spellcasting and supernatural abilities plus a legends knowledge roll. That morphed into more rogue-like combat and a less defined knowledge roll, keeping the music and magic stuff. I couldn't tell you what to do with the class now. It's oddly far to specialized while trying to be good at everything. It could be a musical caster subclass or an NPC sage class or skald. It appears to have almost completely dropped the religious elements from it's previous incarnation as a cleric subclass for high level. As for a scope of exploration it is definitely a wanderer, but not a specialist. Jack of all trades, no mastery at all, may be the best option. So a core class after all. But with all the work to gain XP it will always be second fiddle to every class it covers, it which all four of the primary. [/QUOTE]

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