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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 3843985" data-attributes="member: 27873">That's the problem with the 3rd edition bard in a nutshell. There is a heroic archtype for the Bard, but it's not the minstrel. The 1st edition Bard is more in line with what the Bard is supposed to be, which is why it was so powerful. Even the 2nd edition Bard was much more of a magic using rogue than a singer. Bards should be more wise loremaster than wannabe rockstar, if you're going by mythology.   The 3rd edition version of the Bard decided to play up the lute playing support dude aspect of the class, which is the main reason it's considered so silly now.   In any event, if the want the 4th edition bard to be a leader (and apparently, that's what they're going for) they need to give the Bard a way to be waaaay more proactive in combat. Since the Warlord is going to be the lead from the front Martial Leader, and the Cleric has Divine Leader pegged, the Bard as Arcane Leader will probably be more offensive spell focused.   Since they stated that the goal for all leaders is to let them do support stuff without wasting all their actions healing and buffing, the Bard will probably be able to lead while throwing lots of spells at the enemy. They might keep the focus on enchantment and Illusion, but actually be good at it this time around.   Tying the Bard back to the Druid is an interesting idea. What sort of spells would you give a divine bard, if you don't mind me asking?</blockquote>

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