Bargain Basement Epic - DM advice/ideas

Tortoise

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I'm hoping we can all chime in to come up with some simple yet interesting ways to give an epic or at least very interesting feel to lower level play, and anything rat bastardly in the workings would be nifty too.

A couple of different types of examples might be like these:

1> a group of 1st/2nd level characters pursues someone (that later turns out to be a doppleganger) across several hundred miles of wilderness, discovers a massive goblin war council comprising nine tribes, sneaks past the 1500+ goblins to encounter the goblin king and kill him, sneaks back out, gets ambushed by the doppleganger that had infiltrated them while in the caves, has to go back in to rescue their missing party member and escape with an evil mage's troll thrall and bunches of goblins chasing them.

2> a party of 4th level characters is passing through a misty area of the dungeon/street/etc, when the enemy mage casts area dispel causing his gaseous form low CR minions to solidify to attack and to drop some party defensive spells.

So ... what say ye esteemed and learned DMs?
 

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Tortoise said:
1> a group of 1st/2nd level characters pursues someone (that later turns out to be a doppleganger) across several hundred miles of wilderness, discovers a massive goblin war council comprising nine tribes, sneaks past the 1500+ goblins to encounter the goblin king and kill him, sneaks back out, gets ambushed by the doppleganger that had infiltrated them while in the caves, has to go back in to rescue their missing party member and escape with an evil mage's troll thrall and bunches of goblins chasing them.

I like this idea....until the "encounter the goblin king and kill him" part. If they are really 1st or 2nd level characters, that's a pretty pathetic goblin king. Instead, have it be something like, "steals the goblin king's ring" or "kidnaps the goblin king's daughter" or, to really keep the epic going "makes of copy of the goblin king's battle map". Then just continue on with what you already have if you want: later, "gets ambused by the doppleganger..." I like your idea. It does have an epic feel.
 

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