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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 7381327" data-attributes="member: 23">The gibbering mouthers have a lot of &quot;controlish&quot; powers - they modify terrain and their insane gibbering can momentarily confuse people.&nbsp; Now the DC of the will save is easy (10) - but there was *3* of them, so someone kept missing their save.&nbsp; The party decided to retreat, one got left behind, went back to save them, screw it let's kill them... the fight dragged.The living wall had some control (a slow spell) but the party did amazing on their saves vs that (only an NPC who's mostly a non-combatant failed).&nbsp; I think they &quot;enjoyed&quot; it when they lined&nbsp; up and the wall blasted 3 of the 4 PCs with a lightning bolt though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />The next fight won't be like this (it's one that is &quot;foretold&quot; and thus can be avoided) but the one after that (which can't be avoided if the PCs want to progress) is... vs another monster with tons of HP.&nbsp;&nbsp; (The Neh-thalggu , with 133 hp and AC 14 - ha they might miss a bit more then)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 7381327, member: 23"] The gibbering mouthers have a lot of "controlish" powers - they modify terrain and their insane gibbering can momentarily confuse people. Now the DC of the will save is easy (10) - but there was *3* of them, so someone kept missing their save. The party decided to retreat, one got left behind, went back to save them, screw it let's kill them... the fight dragged. The living wall had some control (a slow spell) but the party did amazing on their saves vs that (only an NPC who's mostly a non-combatant failed). I think they "enjoyed" it when they lined up and the wall blasted 3 of the 4 PCs with a lightning bolt though :D The next fight won't be like this (it's one that is "foretold" and thus can be avoided) but the one after that (which can't be avoided if the PCs want to progress) is... vs another monster with tons of HP. (The Neh-thalggu , with 133 hp and AC 14 - ha they might miss a bit more then) [/QUOTE]

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