Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 7381382" data-attributes="member: 22424">Not me. I seem to be prone to bouts of bad luck, which in my last-ever* 4e game saw me lose all of my limited-use powers (daily and per-encounter) to misses. When I finally managed a hit, it was with a piddly at-will power.I'd much rather the deck was stacked assuming most attacks hit, even if that meant a lower average damage per hit. Indeed, a couple of bad experiences like the above have left me almost wishing for the remove of attack rolls altogether!* Incidentally, it's a coincidence that that was the last-ever 4e game - it wasn't a conscious decision, never mind being one motivated by that bad experience.3e's DR wasn't hugely fun either. IME, players hate seeing their successes negated (see also 3e's confirmation roll for critical hits, or the miss-percentage for displacement).Consider two cases: one where an average hit does 15 damage, but the creature has DR10 and 18 hit points; versus one where an average hit does 15 damage, the creature has no DR but 58 hit points.The maths suggest that these two cases are effectively the same - the creature dies on the fourth hit. However, the latter is much more likely to give a more satisfying game experience, because the PCs aren't &quot;losing&quot; 40 hit points of damage.TL;DR: game design isn't purely about the maths. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 7381382, member: 22424"] Not me. I seem to be prone to bouts of bad luck, which in my last-ever* 4e game saw me lose all of my limited-use powers (daily and per-encounter) to misses. When I [i]finally[/i] managed a hit, it was with a piddly at-will power. I'd much rather the deck was stacked assuming most attacks hit, even if that meant a lower average damage per hit. Indeed, a couple of bad experiences like the above have left me almost wishing for the remove of attack rolls altogether! * Incidentally, it's a coincidence that that was the last-ever 4e game - it wasn't a conscious decision, never mind being one motivated by that bad experience. 3e's DR wasn't hugely fun either. IME, players [i]hate[/i] seeing their successes negated (see also 3e's confirmation roll for critical hits, or the miss-percentage for displacement). Consider two cases: one where an average hit does 15 damage, but the creature has DR10 and 18 hit points; versus one where an average hit does 15 damage, the creature has no DR but 58 hit points. The maths suggest that these two cases are effectively the same - the creature dies on the fourth hit. However, the latter is much more likely to give a more satisfying game experience, because the PCs aren't "losing" 40 hit points of damage. TL;DR: game design isn't purely about the maths. :) [/QUOTE]

Verification