Batman Begins

[Dingleberry]

Two faced is such a great character and a great character for a movie and it was totally destroyed. The makeup was horrible (his face is not evenly divided in the comic) ...

It isn't? It sure was when I was a kid.

 

[Desdichado]

Then we're going to have to agree to disagree.

It would help if you'd explain your reasons before it just stops with "agree to disagree." I mean, quite likely, that'll happen anyway, but you haven't addressed his concerns, which I happen to have always shared as well, nor offered up any idea of why you thought Keaton was spot on.

 

[DonTadow]

It isn't? It sure was when I was a kid.

It's jaggedy at best, i'm nto sure aobut the earlier comics but when iread him in the late 80s and 90s his face was always jagged. That's what i liked about him. It showed credibility. i never bought the fact that acid burns exactly one half of your face.

 

[Taren Seeker]

Well, the only thing that I felt was "spot on" from the previous movies was Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman. Meow.

Surely, at least we can all agree on that?

 

[DonTadow]

Well, the only thing that I felt was "spot on" from the previous movies was Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman. Meow.

Surely, at least we can all agree on that?

Best Cat woman since earth kitt. Yummy.

 

[Ranger REG]

It would help if you'd explain your reasons before it just stops with "agree to disagree." I mean, quite likely, that'll happen anyway, but you haven't addressed his concerns, which I happen to have always shared as well, nor offered up any idea of why you thought Keaton was spot on.

Nope. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Wayside]

Spot on, despite all of the things that have been mentioned--the pouty lips, the weak voice, the shortness, the age, and in general a physique that couldn't even begin to be described as athletic. Do you disagree that Keaton possessed these attributes, or do you simply feel Batman doesn't need a strong visage, a powerful voice, or a heroic physique? Both are equally impossible positions to defend.

"Agree to disagree" is probably the best stance for you take. There's no way you can actually back up an assessment of "spot on" for something so horribly off the mark.

Neither are impossible positions to defend. Keaton doesn't have pouty lips (Adriana Lima has pouty lips), Keaton doesn't have a weak voice (certainly no weaker than Bale's), he's 5'10'' (cetainly not short, just not tall), and he was well before 40 at the time Batman was released. See, that wasn't so hard was it?

You seem to be basing your opinion on a bunch of comics and cartoons most of the people who will see any Batman movie, including me, have never paid much attention to. We don't care about fidelity to earlier incarnations of Batman, we just want a good movie. After Bale, Keaton starred in, from where I'm standing, easily the second best Batman movie. Most people seem to agree to that, if you believe the tens of thousands of voters on IMDB. I'm actually surprised there was any room for debate about who was the best, before Bale's turn.

 

[Berandor]

Michael Keaton had an intensity to his Batman that the others lacked. I could see the darkness simmering in his eyes, lurking in his voice. That's something the other actors lacked. Granted, though, they appeared in progressively worse movies. Kilmer was too sunny for me, though.

 

[DonTadow]

Neither are impossible positions to defend. Keaton doesn't have pouty lips (Adriana Lima has pouty lips), Keaton doesn't have a weak voice (certainly no weaker than Bale's), he's 5'10'' (cetainly not short, just not tall), and he was well before 40 at the time Batman was released. See, that wasn't so hard was it?

You seem to be basing your opinion on a bunch of comics and cartoons most of the people who will see any Batman movie, including me, have never paid much attention to. We don't care about fidelity to earlier incarnations of Batman, we just want a good movie. After Bale, Keaton starred in, from where I'm standing, easily the second best Batman movie. Most people seem to agree to that, if you believe the tens of thousands of voters on IMDB. I'm actually surprised there was any room for debate about who was the best, before Bale's turn.

Keaton seamed a bit pouty throughout hte movie and he was 38 years old when he did the batman movies (very close to 40 ). I know the regular movie goer wants a good movie and I"m sure you guys loved the first two movies and the kids loved the second two movies. But it's an insult to comic book fans for the role not to have been done right. Most people are lemmings, you tell them something enough they'll believe it. But the first time I saw someone really act like batman was Kilmer and Bale, moreso Bale because he had better material. For the true batman fan that was the best moment. These people who vote at imdb are the same people who say spiderman is the best comic book movie. Well if Batman had been so right how did some new comer take its mantal? I'll tell you because the first one failed.

 

[Morrus]

For me, the only acid test is whether or not I enjoyed the movie. I haven't seen the latest one yet (going tonight) but regarding the previous four - irrespective of accurate protrayals of characters, closeness to the comic book source, etc., I enjoyed the first Batman movie the most (then the second, third and fourth in that order).