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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 5612849" data-attributes="member: 4720">No, it takes them well past military weapons.If you're using a morningstar, you go from +2/1d10 to an effective +3/2d6.  Actually, the average damage is 7.5, which is a little better than 2d6.  3d4 is what springs to mind, so it's like using 3 daggers at the same time.  That's at least as good as the fullblade.  I haven't mathed it out, but it's probably better unless you're crit fishing.The mace is at least as bad.  +2/1d8 one-handed becomes effectively +3/1d12.  That's as much damage as the craghammer or the waraxe with a higher chance to hit.Frankly, the damage is irrelevant to me on a leader, but the accuracy improvement is significant.  This outstrips almost all the superior weapons without costing you anything at all since the powers are at least as good if not better than anything currently available.My inner min-maxer keeps telling me to shut up and just roll a cleric of kord next time for farts and giggles.  See how absurd I can make it.That is to say, it's probably not absurd unbalanced.  Just absurd logically that I can spend no resources and hit that hard with my fist or a big stick.  They made weapons actually matter again in 4e.  After that, this is just disappointing.</blockquote>