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<blockquote data-quote="Volaran" data-source="post: 3419149" data-attributes="member: 592"><p>Fantastic episode. I'm still digesting it, though.</p><p></p><p>On the use of "All Along the Watchtower" at the end, this seems to have had its genesis back in season 1. Here's the transcript for the podcast to Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II.</p><p></p><p>http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Podcast:Kobol's_Last_Gleaming,_Part_II</p><p></p><p>The relevent part is at the end of Act 2 and Beginning of Act 3. I'll post it here as well. Giving spoiler tags on the off chance that any of the rest of this idea is used, though I think it unlikely.</p><p></p><p>Originally by Ron Moore:</p><p></p><p>[spoiler]Here on Kobol, as I said earlier, there was originally the two temples. There was the temple on Kobol and the temple on Caprica. And the temple on Kobol storyline always had Baltar going into the temple and discovering something huge and amazing and ending the season on a revelation. In the first draft of "Kobol's Last Gleaming", he went into the temple and Six took him towards some subterranean passage, and it was very dark, and she said, "This is as far as I go." And he says, "What?" And she makes him go further and he's just finds himself walking in a void, a black void, and doesn't know where it's leading. And at the end of that he comes into a room and he hears music and it's a recognizable Earth-tune, to the audience and to him. It was Jimi Hendrix was playing, actually, and he goes, "God, I recognize that." And then somebody- or somebody s- a voice says, "You recognize that?" And he says, "Yes." And he turns and it's Dirk Benedict. (Laughs.) And Dirk Benedict said, "Hi. I'm God." And you just cut. We just cut out on that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just to continue that thought about Kobol and it was Dirk Benedict, and he said, "Hi. I'm God." And they shake hands and that was- we were gonna cut, and that was gonna be the end of that whole storyline and at the episode. I liked it. I thought it was wacky. I didn't quite know what it meant. I thought- I was looking for a surprise. Something interesting that fed into the mythos of the show and also to the audience and something that would really be unexpected and different and, frankly I didn't know what the hell I meant. I didn't know, was he lying? Is it true? It threw a lot of puzzle pieces up in the air in an unexpected way which, to me, was a reason to try to do it and see if it worked. And by and large the reaction ran the gamut from, "Huh?" to "That's really wild and cool!" And ultimately in a discussion with the network, I think it was Mark Stern, who's our production executive at the network, just said, "You know what? You don't need this. You really don't need to go this far. It seems like you're pushing- it's pushing too far. It's winking at the audience for the first time and you haven't done that." And I said, "You know what? You're right." He was right. It was a misstep. But you have to be willing to take chances on the page because that's where you'd wanna take your chances. You wanna like risk things and do the unexpected moment on the page and see if it works, and in this case it was an idea that didn't work. So I just dumped it. Then it became a question about, "Ok. What do you see on the- in the interior of the temple?" We were still talking about a temple. And that went through a few iterations, which I'll come back to in a minute. [/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>I agree with his thoughts that it probably would have been too much there, but I really liked the way the music was used here. It seemed mysterious to me, but not out of place. I bought into it.</p><p></p><p>Edit: And linked from the Sci-fi BSG forums, here is a post-finale interview with Ron Moore.</p><p><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.stm" target="_blank">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.stm</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Volaran, post: 3419149, member: 592"] Fantastic episode. I'm still digesting it, though. On the use of "All Along the Watchtower" at the end, this seems to have had its genesis back in season 1. Here's the transcript for the podcast to Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Podcast:Kobol's_Last_Gleaming,_Part_II The relevent part is at the end of Act 2 and Beginning of Act 3. I'll post it here as well. Giving spoiler tags on the off chance that any of the rest of this idea is used, though I think it unlikely. Originally by Ron Moore: [spoiler]Here on Kobol, as I said earlier, there was originally the two temples. There was the temple on Kobol and the temple on Caprica. And the temple on Kobol storyline always had Baltar going into the temple and discovering something huge and amazing and ending the season on a revelation. In the first draft of "Kobol's Last Gleaming", he went into the temple and Six took him towards some subterranean passage, and it was very dark, and she said, "This is as far as I go." And he says, "What?" And she makes him go further and he's just finds himself walking in a void, a black void, and doesn't know where it's leading. And at the end of that he comes into a room and he hears music and it's a recognizable Earth-tune, to the audience and to him. It was Jimi Hendrix was playing, actually, and he goes, "God, I recognize that." And then somebody- or somebody s- a voice says, "You recognize that?" And he says, "Yes." And he turns and it's Dirk Benedict. (Laughs.) And Dirk Benedict said, "Hi. I'm God." And you just cut. We just cut out on that. Just to continue that thought about Kobol and it was Dirk Benedict, and he said, "Hi. I'm God." And they shake hands and that was- we were gonna cut, and that was gonna be the end of that whole storyline and at the episode. I liked it. I thought it was wacky. I didn't quite know what it meant. I thought- I was looking for a surprise. Something interesting that fed into the mythos of the show and also to the audience and something that would really be unexpected and different and, frankly I didn't know what the hell I meant. I didn't know, was he lying? Is it true? It threw a lot of puzzle pieces up in the air in an unexpected way which, to me, was a reason to try to do it and see if it worked. And by and large the reaction ran the gamut from, "Huh?" to "That's really wild and cool!" And ultimately in a discussion with the network, I think it was Mark Stern, who's our production executive at the network, just said, "You know what? You don't need this. You really don't need to go this far. It seems like you're pushing- it's pushing too far. It's winking at the audience for the first time and you haven't done that." And I said, "You know what? You're right." He was right. It was a misstep. But you have to be willing to take chances on the page because that's where you'd wanna take your chances. You wanna like risk things and do the unexpected moment on the page and see if it works, and in this case it was an idea that didn't work. So I just dumped it. Then it became a question about, "Ok. What do you see on the- in the interior of the temple?" We were still talking about a temple. And that went through a few iterations, which I'll come back to in a minute. [/spoiler] I agree with his thoughts that it probably would have been too much there, but I really liked the way the music was used here. It seemed mysterious to me, but not out of place. I bought into it. Edit: And linked from the Sci-fi BSG forums, here is a post-finale interview with Ron Moore. [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.stm[/url] [/QUOTE]
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