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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3904246" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>No. You were right on the first sentence. It was just you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Hell, I'm not even sure we've been watching the same show.</p><p></p><p>RD Moore wanted to give us more of the Pegasus under Admiral Caine. He wanted to give us Caine, because Caine is the most intresting character on the ship.</p><p></p><p>He wanted to show us what made her tick. What brought her to make the decisions she did - and even if she was the one who made those decisions.</p><p></p><p>Was she wrong? Do you think she was wrong to draft those civilians into the forces - given the extremes of the situation? Have armies in the past ever done this sort of thing to their own under <em>extremis</em>?</p><p></p><p>No political edge to it? I think there certainly was. I think you just missed the edge because you already made up your mind as to whether Caine was right or wrong. RDM is trying to make the point that while Caine ends up in a very ugly place - she didn't get there alone - and many of her steps down that path were wholly understandable. </p><p></p><p>We certainly were never told the Caine and Gina had been lovers before the war - and even after the attack had begun. That Caine blamed herself for the 1600 casualties on the Pegasus because of her own personal sexual weakness. That was not ret-conning so much as it was illuminating and *new*. </p><p></p><p>That self-abhorrence and anger at having been deceived by Gina explains why it was that Gina was treated in the fashion that she was.</p><p>It wasn't just an accident that Gina was found. She was no Boomer sleeper agent. She was an active part of the Cylons plans to destroy the Colonies and the Pegasus - and she almost pulled it off.</p><p></p><p>And Caine loathed her for it. I understand that aspect of the backstory much better now.</p><p></p><p>The criticism that this special was no better than an iffy mid-season episode of BSG is, to be blunt, a pile of crap. I cannot see how any BSG fan can say that with a straight face. You are either stirring the pot - or you have been watching a very different series than I have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3904246, member: 20741"] No. You were right on the first sentence. It was just you. :D Hell, I'm not even sure we've been watching the same show. RD Moore wanted to give us more of the Pegasus under Admiral Caine. He wanted to give us Caine, because Caine is the most intresting character on the ship. He wanted to show us what made her tick. What brought her to make the decisions she did - and even if she was the one who made those decisions. Was she wrong? Do you think she was wrong to draft those civilians into the forces - given the extremes of the situation? Have armies in the past ever done this sort of thing to their own under [I]extremis[/I]? No political edge to it? I think there certainly was. I think you just missed the edge because you already made up your mind as to whether Caine was right or wrong. RDM is trying to make the point that while Caine ends up in a very ugly place - she didn't get there alone - and many of her steps down that path were wholly understandable. We certainly were never told the Caine and Gina had been lovers before the war - and even after the attack had begun. That Caine blamed herself for the 1600 casualties on the Pegasus because of her own personal sexual weakness. That was not ret-conning so much as it was illuminating and *new*. That self-abhorrence and anger at having been deceived by Gina explains why it was that Gina was treated in the fashion that she was. It wasn't just an accident that Gina was found. She was no Boomer sleeper agent. She was an active part of the Cylons plans to destroy the Colonies and the Pegasus - and she almost pulled it off. And Caine loathed her for it. I understand that aspect of the backstory much better now. The criticism that this special was no better than an iffy mid-season episode of BSG is, to be blunt, a pile of crap. I cannot see how any BSG fan can say that with a straight face. You are either stirring the pot - or you have been watching a very different series than I have. [/QUOTE]
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