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<blockquote data-quote="GMMichael" data-source="post: 8074609" data-attributes="member: 6685730"><p>This is your call. I am definitely not going to wait around for printed D&D text (including errata) to tell me how to run my game...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not magical. So, what, golems come from the golem-stork when they're born, and go to see the golem-barber when they're sick? Like all other non-magical creatures?</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is probably my favorite argument of the thread. Instantaneous means, basically, that the magic's over, per the rules. Now, I still think that leaves some pretty big gaps, but here we are. </p><p></p><p>Someone who's been raised from the dead has been restored to life: the condition of living under one's own power. A golem never does this; it's a rock. Or a suit of armor. But a person, raised from the dead, doesn't walk around with the mortal wounds that did him in. That would be magical. Instead, those wounds are healed, and he persists normally, as well as not dying again once in an anti-magic field (until an inert golem gets dropped on his head).</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you're not counting the <strong>Creatures and Objects</strong> portion of AMF? What about the <strong>Spells</strong> portion, which says a "magical effect" on a "creature or an object" is suppressed? I'd like to see a golem created without a magical effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. Maybe dragons have a unique feature of their excretory systems that reroutes gas to their mouths, where it can be set aflame by the sparks of their grinding teeth. But I'm not buying that dragon flight is non-magical, unless the dragon is shaped like a pterydactyl. And it's wearing a jetpack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMMichael, post: 8074609, member: 6685730"] This is your call. I am definitely not going to wait around for printed D&D text (including errata) to tell me how to run my game... Not magical. So, what, golems come from the golem-stork when they're born, and go to see the golem-barber when they're sick? Like all other non-magical creatures? This is probably my favorite argument of the thread. Instantaneous means, basically, that the magic's over, per the rules. Now, I still think that leaves some pretty big gaps, but here we are. Someone who's been raised from the dead has been restored to life: the condition of living under one's own power. A golem never does this; it's a rock. Or a suit of armor. But a person, raised from the dead, doesn't walk around with the mortal wounds that did him in. That would be magical. Instead, those wounds are healed, and he persists normally, as well as not dying again once in an anti-magic field (until an inert golem gets dropped on his head). So, you're not counting the [B]Creatures and Objects[/B] portion of AMF? What about the [B]Spells[/B] portion, which says a "magical effect" on a "creature or an object" is suppressed? I'd like to see a golem created without a magical effect. Sure. Maybe dragons have a unique feature of their excretory systems that reroutes gas to their mouths, where it can be set aflame by the sparks of their grinding teeth. But I'm not buying that dragon flight is non-magical, unless the dragon is shaped like a pterydactyl. And it's wearing a jetpack. [/QUOTE]
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