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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 8738995" data-attributes="member: 3424">The traditional way in which fighters remain "non-magical" while still contributing at the same level as magic-users was for them to get magical equipment.Picking up Orcus and bowling him into his minions gets more plausible if the fighter has a girdle of storm giant strength. BMX Bandit can close the power gap with Angel Summoner if he was riding Street Hawk (an all-terrain attack motorcycle designed to fight urban crime, capable of incredible speeds up to three hundred miles an hour, and immense firepower - from Wikipedia).The downside to this approach is that handing out magic items has traditionally been the province of the DM (or the module, or random loot tables). Previous attempts to cede even this amount of narrative control to the players (or even to ask what the players want via wish lists) have been met with hostility. I think this point needs to be made more clearly and explicitly.</blockquote>