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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8741923" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>Something does certainly change in the JLA or Avengers books when the varying power levels are together. But it feels to me like it's more like the top end is nerfed that the bottom end brought up.</p><p></p><p>Superman and Wonder Woman and Thor and Captain Marvel have a lot of stories in their own books where thank goodness Batman and Songbird and Hawkeye and Hawkeye aren't along, because they would just die without a naughty word ton of plot armor. The Thor who takes on a celestial in his own book doesn't feel anything like the Thor who struggles against Orca.</p><p></p><p>Is the only reason JLA or Avengers comics work because the Superman or Monica Rambeau powered hero or villain doesn't do what a lot of D&D players would do and use their powers to their fullest and just kill all the none top tier powered folks on the other side with one action in a single round? (See also the differing fates of Thor.and Cap when they fight the Presence in Kang Dynasty, or how Kingdom Come goes for most of the folks).</p><p></p><p>Batman puts up a fight against Supes in Dark Knight Returns because he's prepared for it forever, Superman has a convenient Achilles heal that Thor doesn't, Superman is weakened, and Superman doesn't want to kill him. Make it spontaneous, and Superman flies through Bats at near the speed of light before Bats even recognizes the pinging of any alarms. (See many scenes out of the Authority or Bendis having Sentry take out Ares).</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]258599[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8741923, member: 6701124"] Something does certainly change in the JLA or Avengers books when the varying power levels are together. But it feels to me like it's more like the top end is nerfed that the bottom end brought up. Superman and Wonder Woman and Thor and Captain Marvel have a lot of stories in their own books where thank goodness Batman and Songbird and Hawkeye and Hawkeye aren't along, because they would just die without a naughty word ton of plot armor. The Thor who takes on a celestial in his own book doesn't feel anything like the Thor who struggles against Orca. Is the only reason JLA or Avengers comics work because the Superman or Monica Rambeau powered hero or villain doesn't do what a lot of D&D players would do and use their powers to their fullest and just kill all the none top tier powered folks on the other side with one action in a single round? (See also the differing fates of Thor.and Cap when they fight the Presence in Kang Dynasty, or how Kingdom Come goes for most of the folks). Batman puts up a fight against Supes in Dark Knight Returns because he's prepared for it forever, Superman has a convenient Achilles heal that Thor doesn't, Superman is weakened, and Superman doesn't want to kill him. Make it spontaneous, and Superman flies through Bats at near the speed of light before Bats even recognizes the pinging of any alarms. (See many scenes out of the Authority or Bendis having Sentry take out Ares). [ATTACH type="full"]258599[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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