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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8743435" data-attributes="member: 4937">Captain America I'm not sure.&nbsp; He's in the scope of a high level fighter IMO, so while in my opinion he's probably not quite 17th level, I concede that there is no way to know or differentiate on the basis of 5e what his level is.Aragorn though can't survive a fall off a 100' cliff, or take on more than a dozen orcs at the same time.&nbsp; On the scale of the things we see Aragorn do that are related to his class, he's probably not more than 6th level.&nbsp; (I'm leaving aside the problem that Aragorn is probably a Paladin in D&amp;D terms, as both he and the D&amp;D Paladin share common medieval mythic origins, see for example &quot;the hands of the King are the hands of a healer&quot;.)&nbsp; Aragorn is capable of doing a lot of things with his backstory such as use a Palantir, command the Army of the Dead, but those are more plot devices than class abilities.&nbsp; Aragorn could still do these things at 1st level, and leveling up for the most part doesn't make him any better at them.&nbsp; They have to do with his inherited authority as &quot;The True King&quot;, which is strictly part of his backstory and not something you'd want to import into a class in a generic fashion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8743435, member: 4937"] Captain America I'm not sure. He's in the scope of a high level fighter IMO, so while in my opinion he's probably not quite 17th level, I concede that there is no way to know or differentiate on the basis of 5e what his level is. Aragorn though can't survive a fall off a 100' cliff, or take on more than a dozen orcs at the same time. On the scale of the things we see Aragorn do that are related to his class, he's probably not more than 6th level. (I'm leaving aside the problem that Aragorn is probably a Paladin in D&D terms, as both he and the D&D Paladin share common medieval mythic origins, see for example "the hands of the King are the hands of a healer".) Aragorn is capable of doing a lot of things with his backstory such as use a Palantir, command the Army of the Dead, but those are more plot devices than class abilities. Aragorn could still do these things at 1st level, and leveling up for the most part doesn't make him any better at them. They have to do with his inherited authority as "The True King", which is strictly part of his backstory and not something you'd want to import into a class in a generic fashion. [/QUOTE]

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