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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9343949" data-attributes="member: 5889">I think part of the issue to is that this player is very good at optimizing compared to many of the others. And so its not just that they are the tankiest (that alone wouldn't be the end of the world).They also do high damage, and their grapples give them a ton of control. (they also have +10 speed as a glory paladin so being able to move a creature 20 feet is actually very useful).Now I don't need to &quot;take them out&quot; or &quot;make them pay&quot; or anything. I just want to ensure I am giving them fair treatment with everyone else. If fight X really challenges the rogue and warlock, I want to ensure this sorcadin has a fight that leaves them sweating as well. The problem is right now that the sorcadin is kind of skating through the encounters but the other players are feeling legitimately challenged.Its also why the notion of &quot;just ignore the tank&quot; isn't really going to help. If the solution to the problem is &quot;beat up the other players more in combat&quot;, thats not really solving the problem</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9343949, member: 5889"] I think part of the issue to is that this player is very good at optimizing compared to many of the others. And so its not just that they are the tankiest (that alone wouldn't be the end of the world). They also do high damage, and their grapples give them a ton of control. (they also have +10 speed as a glory paladin so being able to move a creature 20 feet is actually very useful). Now I don't need to "take them out" or "make them pay" or anything. I just want to ensure I am giving them fair treatment with everyone else. If fight X really challenges the rogue and warlock, I want to ensure this sorcadin has a fight that leaves them sweating as well. The problem is right now that the sorcadin is kind of skating through the encounters but the other players are feeling legitimately challenged. Its also why the notion of "just ignore the tank" isn't really going to help. If the solution to the problem is "beat up the other players more in combat", thats not really solving the problem [/QUOTE]

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