Hammerhead
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alsih2o said:
It can't. It can only cause him to be shaken, so he'd get a -2 to attacks, saves, and checks at WORST. It only scares 4 HD or fewer losers away.
Best way to kill a dragon?
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It can't. It can only cause him to be shaken, so he'd get a -2 to attacks, saves, and checks at WORST. It only scares 4 HD or fewer losers away.
*Blackthorne
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Conaill said:Nvvyn, if you want us to give you some useful advice, I would have to agree with the earlier person who said that we would need to know more about how your DM runs dragons. An overview of the earlier fight with the blue and red would be *very* helpful.
Why? Well, it is abundantly clear to most of the people on this board (although maybe not to you) that your DM either sucks at playing bad guys, or is cutting you an enormous amount of slack. That makes this an entirely different game from what most of us are familiar with. So your question is not really "What are some tactics that a standard Rog3/Wiz5/Atr7 can use in a one-on-one fight against a standard Ancient Red Dragon?" (for example: Dispel his Protection from Elements), but rather "What are some tactics this partucular DM won't be able to handle?" (e.g., forget about Dispelling, because the dragon likely won't have Protection from Elements up anyway!)
Personally, I think you actually have a very decent chance of defeating this dragon. Because I think your DM will let you!Regardless of the fact that a single 15th level PC attacking an Ancient Red is equivalent to a EL +11 encounter
(CR 22, +4 because you're on your own).
The point Conaill is trying to get across here is:
Your DM sucks. Period.
Squire James
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If you want a "reasonable chance of success for the battle" (read "a snowball's chance on the 4th layer of Baator, as opposed to the 8th where it actually has a good chance"), ask Mystra/DM (same thing, apparently) to remove the dragon's SR. This is, of course, assuming the DM doesn't forget about the SR entirely. Without the SR, the dragon's reeeeally vulnerable to touch attack spells that don't allow saves. Even so, they have enough Hit Dice to weather a lot of Enervation spells!
First of all, I'd just like to say that none of you know my DM, so if you have ANY comments regarding him, just STFU. Cuz I don't want to hear it. My DM happens to be very good, however he is newer and is learning many of the tactical combatant skillios.
And that is no reason for u aholes to post negativety
And that is no reason for u aholes to post negativety
buzzard
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Nvvyn said:
You have provided sufficient evidence to justify our opinion of your DM. You have provided nothing which would make one believe otherwise. If your DM lived anywhere in the neighborhood of a clue, your whole party would be dead by now.
I've had DMs like yours' He (and I) was 11 at the time. That was understandable. We would also have qualified for a part in the Wizzard of OZ.
Buzzard
buzzard
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Nvvyn said:
While I don't much see the point in antagonizing you, I do feel it behooves me to point out it is not "your thread". You do not, in any sense, have ownership of it. The only person who can claim ownership of anything around here is Morrus since it is his web site. You want to have your own thread? Make your own server. Until then you will have to tolerate people writing things which don't make you happy.
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