Better Synergies?

[iwatt]

Eh? I meant that by the same reasoning that synergies should be better, aid another checks could probably be boosted. It's not like any of my players have ever aided each other anyway...I was probably just going to use the better synergies, but if someone really wants a better aid another check, we'll see.

My players always aid another, even when they have a sucky chance to succeed.

I'm about to apply this. About the only potential issue is that aiding another in combat might get out of hand, specially with Animal Companions and summoned creatures (my players use their allies mostly to look good themselves )

 

[Jdvn1]

Eh? I meant that by the same reasoning that synergies should be better, aid another checks could probably be boosted. It's not like any of my players have ever aided each other anyway...I was probably just going to use the better synergies, but if someone really wants a better aid another check, we'll see.

Oh, they mention that in Complete Adventurer. We referred to that at the beginning of the thread too. Oops.

 

[tigycho]

Oddly enough, I just today posted an analysis of changing the synergy bonus system to rec.games.frp.dnd this morning. Here's a link to the Google Groups thread if you want to see it in context: http://tinyurl.com/6tyf4

To satisfy my geeky need to create tables of comparisons, I've created
the following table. It compares RAW, +1/5 ranks (HouseRule A) and +2
at 5, then +1/10 (HouseRule B).

I did it all the way out to 65 ranks (minimum level 62 character),
which, I *hope* is sufficient for most people. Even all the way out
there, using +1/5 ranks only grants an additional +5 synergy bonus. I
should think a level 62 character should have had plenty of opportunity
to find ways to gain an additional +5 skill bonus by then.

So, yeah, that's what the rules should really look like, IMO, and I hope
they do so in 4e. It is a simpler rule, scales nicely, and isn't
broken, as far as I can tell. In most campaigns, as far as I know,
characters of Epic levels are rare, and before that, this doesn't give
out any bonuses they wouldn't already get until level 15.

        RAW     A       B
1       0       0       0
2       0       0       0
3       0       0       0
4       0       0       0
5       2       1       2
6       2       1       2
7       2       1       2
8       2       1       2
9       2       1       2
10      2       2       2
11      2       2       2
12      2       2       2
13      2       2       2
14      2       2       2
15      2       3       3
16      2       3       3
17      2       3       3
18      2       3       3
19      2       3       3
20      2       4       3
21      2       4       3
22      2       4       3
23      2       4       3
24      2       4       3
25      4       5       4
26      4       5       4
27      4       5       4
28      4       5       4
29      4       5       4
30      4       6       4
31      4       6       4
32      4       6       4
33      4       6       4
34      4       6       4
35      4       7       5
36      4       7       5
37      4       7       5
38      4       7       5
39      4       7       5
40      4       8       5
41      4       8       5
42      4       8       5
43      4       8       5
44      4       8       5
45      6       9       6
46      6       9       6
47      6       9       6
48      6       9       6
49      6       9       6
50      6       10      6
51      6       10      6
52      6       10      6
53      6       10      6
54      6       10      6
55      6       11      7
56      6       11      7
57      6       11      7
58      6       11      7
59      6       11      7
60      6       12      7
61      6       12      7
62      6       12      7
63      6       12      7
64      6       12      7
65      8       13      8