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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9109213" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>To be honest, even an entirely normal STR Fighter taking the most obvious path does really incredible damage.</p><p></p><p>Like, Lae'zel starts with GWF and using a 2h (albeit it's a longsword lol), so the natural path is to pick up GWM and then ASI then Heavy Armour Mastery, that's like brainless. Your subclass barely matters (EK is thematic for Githyanki Gish and gives her great mobility with Longstrider and Jump - both rituals - and possibly Misty Step I dunno if that's EK all I know is I have three different Misty Steps on Lae'zel, and Shield + either Protection from Evil and Good or Blur means all your enemies have Disadvantage to hit you and you barely ever get hit). Combine that with various good weapons that you can easily buy from NPCs or just find and all the outrageous gloves and heavy armour in the game (take your choice!) and you're just splattering people all over the place. At high levels with Haste or Speed Potion she's hitting for like 30 damage 6 (7 if she kills someone) times a round (9-10 times on the Action Surge round). Good luck having 180+ HP everyone! Also good luck rolling to hit against 25+ AC with Disadvantage.</p><p></p><p>Like, I will admit my Karlach build is absolutely high-effort nonsense requiring three different classes, specific magic items, and a broken feat that only exists in BG3 (Tavern Brawler - it has no relationship to the 5E version lol), but Karlach actually underperforms simple, straightforward, almost PHB-compliant single-class Fighter Lae'zel much of the time.</p><p></p><p>I mean, that's the best you're going to do (assuming you have Sharpshooter) with a single-class Rogue for sure, but like, literally any class which has multiple attacks will do better, because they're in the same position but with one more attack and one more attack with Sharpshooter does more damage, on average, than Sneak Attack adds (Thief will compete a little better than others with that particular setup because of the two bonus actions - you're in a similar place to a Ranger there - I think Beast Master will do better because of the independent full-attack beasts, but the other two probably won't).</p><p></p><p>Minsc has 12 STR in this. He's a DEX fighter. It's a crime against Minscs and Boo should deal with whoever did it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9109213, member: 18"] To be honest, even an entirely normal STR Fighter taking the most obvious path does really incredible damage. Like, Lae'zel starts with GWF and using a 2h (albeit it's a longsword lol), so the natural path is to pick up GWM and then ASI then Heavy Armour Mastery, that's like brainless. Your subclass barely matters (EK is thematic for Githyanki Gish and gives her great mobility with Longstrider and Jump - both rituals - and possibly Misty Step I dunno if that's EK all I know is I have three different Misty Steps on Lae'zel, and Shield + either Protection from Evil and Good or Blur means all your enemies have Disadvantage to hit you and you barely ever get hit). Combine that with various good weapons that you can easily buy from NPCs or just find and all the outrageous gloves and heavy armour in the game (take your choice!) and you're just splattering people all over the place. At high levels with Haste or Speed Potion she's hitting for like 30 damage 6 (7 if she kills someone) times a round (9-10 times on the Action Surge round). Good luck having 180+ HP everyone! Also good luck rolling to hit against 25+ AC with Disadvantage. Like, I will admit my Karlach build is absolutely high-effort nonsense requiring three different classes, specific magic items, and a broken feat that only exists in BG3 (Tavern Brawler - it has no relationship to the 5E version lol), but Karlach actually underperforms simple, straightforward, almost PHB-compliant single-class Fighter Lae'zel much of the time. I mean, that's the best you're going to do (assuming you have Sharpshooter) with a single-class Rogue for sure, but like, literally any class which has multiple attacks will do better, because they're in the same position but with one more attack and one more attack with Sharpshooter does more damage, on average, than Sneak Attack adds (Thief will compete a little better than others with that particular setup because of the two bonus actions - you're in a similar place to a Ranger there - I think Beast Master will do better because of the independent full-attack beasts, but the other two probably won't). Minsc has 12 STR in this. He's a DEX fighter. It's a crime against Minscs and Boo should deal with whoever did it. [/QUOTE]
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