Bias at EnWorld?

[Desdichado]

Hell, I've [/i]been the slamee more than once (Hi Piratecate )

Hey, now! Is that a subtle dig at PC's masculinity?

I'd say there is certainly bias at enworld. As TB says, there's a bias towards third party publishers, I think. There's also a bias in favor of DMs over players that's been commented on many times. Then again, there's bias in every community -- online or otherwise -- to which I belong. It doesn't affect my own personal biases any, though.

 

[Ferret]

News is what the writer says not what happens. Even by accident bias leeks in.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Hey, now! Is that a subtle dig at PC's masculinity?

Heh, no. I think measured by any yardstick that's a dig at mine

...There's also a bias in favor of DMs over players that's been commented on many times....

May it never change!

 

[Belen]

Teflon,

I do agree with you, but I thought this may be a question that the people of EnWorld would enjoy discussing/ thinking about, so I decided to throw something into the ring.

Morrus,

here is the quote from AV:

Folks,

So, yes, it is me. I'm trying to standardize my name to ACValterra. I used Zulkir when I was with WotC. I use ACValterra on the boards on our site (www.valarproject.com).

Okay - a few things that I can now say. First as a former employee of WotC I am constrained in some of the things I can reveal for legal reasons. But as soon as WotC says it publically I am obviously freed up. WotC has now confessed that these changes have been in the works for a year. A YEAR FOLKS!!!!! BoeF was announced last MARCH!!! Do the math!

Everyone who has been saying Anthony Valterra ruined it for all of us can now please eat their words. They were assuming this order:

1) Anthony (pool pee-er) Valterra announces BoeF because he is a Machivellian money grubber.
2) WotC in a panic changes the license to try and stop the product.

Thus BoeF is responsible for the change.

It is now obvious that this is the order:

1) WotC (internally) decides that the license must be changed about fall of last year.
2) Anthony opposes the change for 6 months and then realizing the battle is lost leaves WotC to do the product that **he really believes in** and has wanted to do since he cludged a courtesan class in his college D&D game.
3) In his attempt to move fast he writes his own press release (a move he has desperately regreted ever since)
4) He then whips his poor creatives in an attempt to beat the license change.
5) Even though badly abused they turn out absolutely brilliant work.

Oh, and by the way all those who *know* what the BoeF is going to be like you might check out some of the reviews of the preview. Maybe its not what you think it is. Don't judge it by the idiot press release. I fired that moron.

http://www.enworld.org/reviews/inde...r&product=BoEFP

http://www.enworld.org/reviews/inde...&product=BoEFP&

http://www.computingondemand.com/ar...ect/page1.shtml

AV

 

[Morrus]

Actually, I don't see any particular bias in my news item. I just re-read it, and apart from a minor dig at WotC for responding with a boilerplate statement, both news items just say "X said this, and B said this" in the order in which they said it. I've added the latest quote, from AV, which was written by him after I wrote the news item.

 

[Morrus]

Thanks, BelenUmeria. I found it just before you posted it!

 

[johnsemlak]

EN World's messageboard definitely has a pro-d20 and pro third-party slant, though I'm not sure if that means anti-WotC necessarily.

Also, the EN World's messageboards and the EN World news site are somewhat different entities, particularly in this regard.

As far as EN World bias against WotC at EN World and by Morrus in particular, I think it might be worth pointing out that when the news of 3.5 leaked out Morrus and others were quick to defend WotC on the messageboards and later on the News site. In the past news items have been posted at the news site to clarify WotC's position on things during various online WotC-bashing sessions (when WotC laid off several people, Morrus posted a lengthy quote from Monte Cook which tried to dispell numerous outrigh myths about how evil WotC was)

 

[Belen]

Morrus,

I tried! That was the only successful post of three.

Dave

 

[fusangite]

I'm with BelenUmeria in that I disagree with ENWorld's attitude towards the license changes. That said, I agree that basically all modern publications are biased; what is upsetting is when a publication (and I'm thinking especially of North American daily newspapers and TV newscasts) pretend at being unbiased. Now that is tiresome.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Teflon,

I do agree with you, but I thought this may be a question that the people of EnWorld would enjoy discussing/ thinking about...

Ahh, ok. I just thought that your comment....

...Maybe it is just that the idea of being unbiased or having rational debates is passe these days...

..Sounded not so much like you "throwing a topic into the ring" as being passive/agreesive sarcasm aimed at placing your point of view above that of the rank and file of EN World.

Given that your post was a call for less bias; this seemed a mite hypocritical.