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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evileeyore" data-source="post: 1448447" data-attributes="member: 1768">I hadn't given thought to PrC being organization based.  I am used to not really worrying about it.My thoughts on a few them from the SRD3.5:Arcane Archer.  Possibly unchanged, however Athasian Elves are not known for Wizardry, so maybe not right for the setting?  Elves still like range on Athas though...Archmage.  Unchanged.  I see no problem with the Veiled Alliance having Archmanges.  Nor with the 'Sith-like' Defilers going this route.Assassin.  I am sure that the Sorceror Kings would absolutely not have a corp of trained assassins.  I am sure of this.  Nor would there be mercenary groups of assassins for hire amongst the merchant clans.  Never.Blackguard.  I can see this working on Athas.  I would change the ex-Paladin, to ex-Templar however...Dragon Disciple.  Right out.  Unless possibly a Sorceror King aspirant... (read so to be dead here)Duelist.  I can this as a Gladiatorial speciality.  Also a Merchant Guardsman speciality, less armor=good on Athas.Dwarven Defender.  Not really appropos from what I remember...   Maybe in an 'all' Dwarven settlement?Hierophant.  Very appropriate for Templars.Horizon Walkers.  Already noted by Paxus as an Elven 'thing'.Loremaster.  Maybe really old (read experienced)  Preservers or Defilers?  However the SRD does not list an 'arcane spellcaster' requirement, so possibly useful to Templars?Shadowdancer.  I so see this as a viable PrC.   Large roving band of 'Gypsy'-like entertainers...Thaumaturgist.  I can see this working for Elemental Clerics, Templars, Druids, and Wizards...The mixed caster classes:  See now I see a different side to this coin.  Defilers and Preservers need to hide themselves amongst the populous.  They would often have other skills to mask their abilities, and other skills to use.  To me the 'mixed caster' classes are a natural extension of this.  Not that a large organization would be teaching these skills, but that the Maste-Apprentice relationship would hold here.  If the Master is an Arcane Trickster (learned from his Master, and so on) then the skills would likely be passed on.  Same for Eldritch Knight, Mystic Theurge, what have you.An that note, it may be that some PrCs like this would require a Master be sought out and wooed.  Not necesarily helpful in a limited campiagn such as this PbP, but it could be thought on.Not trying to undercut the DMs say here, just offering food for thought.As a side note.  I have played Mystic Theurges and they aren't all that good power wise.  Very weak compared to straight out single class casters.My take on PrCs being organization based:Some PrCs yes.  Assassin, Shadowdancer, Arcane Archer...  However these also mentioned within their 'flavor text' such organizations.  Others such as Blackguard, Thaumaturgist, Dragon Disciple mention a more personal route or contact with outer planar beings.  Some seem to me to be more extensions of style or skills, Duellist (although I can see a Duelist org), Arcane Trickster, Heirophant, Loremaster, etc.I mean it isn't necessary for most base classes to be bound to an organization right?  (Preserver/Defiler master-apprentice relationship noted as exception)I just don't see (even in Greyhawk worlds) Loremaster schools.  Or Blackguard clan meetings.  Horizon Wlaker help seminars.  Etc.Though I can see a need for limiting PrCs, because damn there are alot of them.Your thoughts?--EvilE--Editted to add:  Wow sorry about the long post.  Not trying to be pedantic or argumentative.</blockquote>

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