Blackmoor RPG same Blackmoor from Oerth?

[ecliptic]

I was still considering what to buy and was wondering if it is the same one from the World of Greyhawk. I am craving Greyhawk world information.

 

[Ranger REG]

Nope. It's D&D co-creator Dave Arneson's original campaign setting revamped for 3.5e D&D. Gygax used Blackmoor (and trademarked it for TSR) for the commercially published Greyhawk setting as a tribute to Dave.

 

[ecliptic]

Oh well.

 

[Jupp]

Yup, and Mordy and Robilar did travel to Blackmoor (Arneson was the DM) to visit the City of the Gods...according to the notes of Mr. Kuntz the adventure was a short one and ended in a "strategic retreat". IIRC there is a text from RJK about this adventure in one of the Oerth Journal issues.

 

[Remathilis]

BUT!!!!!

Is it related to the Blackmoor on the Known World/Mystara?

(Check Yer Cyclopedias folks, there are two Blackmoors...)

 

[HellHound]

Yes.

The Dave Arneson BlackMoor is the same one that is referenced in the Known World - destroyed long ago in that timeline because of experiments with magic and technology and then the power plant of the space ship was moved from the northern reaches of BlackMoor to be burried under Glantri.

 

[grodog]

None of which isn't to say that you couldn't use the material from the Goodman Games Blackmoor, the Blackmoor adventure "The Garbage Pits of Despair" published in Different Worlds in 1986 (in isssues 42 and 43), the DA1-4 series of modules, the Judges Guild First Fantasy Campaign, or the materials in the Blackmoor (OD&D supplement 2), to round out how you'd like to use Blackmoor in your version of Greyhawk.

I certainly have

 

[Mouseferatu]

Yes.

The Dave Arneson BlackMoor is the same one that is referenced in the Known World - destroyed long ago in that timeline because of experiments with magic and technology and then the power plant of the space ship was moved from the northern reaches of BlackMoor to be burried under Glantri.

Actually, not so much.

Dave's Blackmoor was an original setting unto itself, predating Greyhawk and the Known World/Mystara both. TSR, at various times, put it in both other settings, but Dave never intended it to be in either. The original was written as its own setting--and so is the new book. Blackmoor, as presented in the new Zeitgeist/Goodman release, has no direct relationship to Greyhawk, Mystara, or any other previously published setting.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Blackmoor, as presented in the new Zeitgeist/Goodman release, has no direct relationship to Greyhawk, Mystara, or any other previously published setting.

There are a lot of little "nudge, nudge, wink, winks" to other settings- some of the Gods have the same names as Mystaran Immortals, for instance- but yes, as Mouseferatu points out, the new setting is a complete setting in and of itself, and the talk on the Zeitgeist boards is that they're eventually hoping to develop the entire world of Blackmoor somewhat further (thus widening the gap).

 

[DClingman]

This is correct. The version of Dave Arneson's Blackmoor produced by Zeitgeist Games and published by Goodman Games is it's own timeline. Though it does have some events in common with Greyhawk, it is not related. That being said, it can still fit nicely into any Greyhawk campaign... or any other campaign world to be honest.

Dustin