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<blockquote data-quote="I'm Cleo" data-source="post: 3385349" data-attributes="member: 40615"><p>The Crusader is a tremendously fun class to play, but the mechanics involved (the delayed damage pool; the random granting of maneuvers) require a lot of bookkeeping. As brehobit suggested, cards for your maneuvers would be a good idea. It's also brilliantly designed -- every level you "get" something new, whether it's a new level of maneuvers, a new maximum for your delayed damage pool, a smite, or just switching out an old maneuver for a new one. </p><p></p><p>Regarding how it stacks up with the PHB front-line classes, it's <em>better</em>, but I wouldn't say it's overpowered. The Barbarian is still going to outmove and outdamage you. The Fighter might have a few more feat tricks up his sleeve at early levels. And by mid levels the Cleric and Druid are the best front-line classes in the PHB anyway. </p><p></p><p>If you center on Devoted Spirit maneuvers (leaving to the side the White Raven ones), you're going to be extremely hard to kill. A high AC (from all your "heavy" items), all sorts of healing options (Martial Spirit stance, Crusader's Strike), and the delayed damage pool will make you quite a tank. And if you throw in some Stone Dragon maneuvers, you'll have some damage potential as well.</p><p></p><p>In terms of perceived "balance", Crusaders are hard to kill and help the party. Lots of their maneuvers help others. Your character might be great, but since it helps the other players too, it won't seem as if you're outshining them. </p><p></p><p>If you do decide to take levels in Ruby Knight Vindicator, I'd warn you that it's not going to "gimp" your guy. If anything, adding Cleric casting to an already-powerful tank with its own abilities will make it more powerful. If you don't want to outshine other front liners too much, take straight Crusader.</p><p></p><p>I'm Cleo!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm Cleo, post: 3385349, member: 40615"] The Crusader is a tremendously fun class to play, but the mechanics involved (the delayed damage pool; the random granting of maneuvers) require a lot of bookkeeping. As brehobit suggested, cards for your maneuvers would be a good idea. It's also brilliantly designed -- every level you "get" something new, whether it's a new level of maneuvers, a new maximum for your delayed damage pool, a smite, or just switching out an old maneuver for a new one. Regarding how it stacks up with the PHB front-line classes, it's [i]better[/i], but I wouldn't say it's overpowered. The Barbarian is still going to outmove and outdamage you. The Fighter might have a few more feat tricks up his sleeve at early levels. And by mid levels the Cleric and Druid are the best front-line classes in the PHB anyway. If you center on Devoted Spirit maneuvers (leaving to the side the White Raven ones), you're going to be extremely hard to kill. A high AC (from all your "heavy" items), all sorts of healing options (Martial Spirit stance, Crusader's Strike), and the delayed damage pool will make you quite a tank. And if you throw in some Stone Dragon maneuvers, you'll have some damage potential as well. In terms of perceived "balance", Crusaders are hard to kill and help the party. Lots of their maneuvers help others. Your character might be great, but since it helps the other players too, it won't seem as if you're outshining them. If you do decide to take levels in Ruby Knight Vindicator, I'd warn you that it's not going to "gimp" your guy. If anything, adding Cleric casting to an already-powerful tank with its own abilities will make it more powerful. If you don't want to outshine other front liners too much, take straight Crusader. I'm Cleo! [/QUOTE]
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