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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 7906612" data-attributes="member: 6803643">I think the crux of the matter here is that 5e doesn’t play like 4e.It’s a boatload more simplified in combat so as to prevent the game from requiring miniatures/battle mats. Characters just don’t have as many powers as they did in 4e. Spellcasters might, but even there the arcane spells/divine prayers/primal evocations/psionic powers have been codified again into a single Spells chapter, so different classes access the same powers (so fewer unique magical powers over all).It’s a different game. I love 4e, but not everything that was a Class in 4e is going to be a class in 5e. The editions have different ideas of what it means to have a class. In 4e, a Swordmage could be its own class, but while one could build an arcane-fighter halfcaster, it’s very hard to find a broad flavour there that has lots of room for subclasses of differing ideas. It works well enough as subclasses for various different casters/noncasters.Warlord is an example of a class with a really cool mechanic but not much story difference for what makes them not a Fighter, and what makes an Inspiring Warlord different from a Tactical Warlord different from a Bravura or Resourceful or Skirmishing or Insightful one.That’s why I brought up Battle Master and Banneret Fighters, Mastermind Rogue, the Superior Technique Fighting Style, and the Martial Adept feat. The Warlord is a concept that fits into different wings of different classes. A Bravura Warlord inspiring with courage from the frontlines functions differently from a LazyLord moving around allies like chess pieces and granting them attacks, functions differently from a skirmishing fighter leader functions differently from a master of tactical abilities.We now have a fourth alternative access into that tactical system, so there’s lots of ways to capture the flavour of a 4e Warlord within 5e.Want to play an Insightful Skirmishing Warlord? Take Archery or Thrown Weapon Fighting Style alongside Battle Master or Banneret. Have a higher wisdom score. Multiclass Scout Rogue or Ranger if you’re really seeking that Aragorn-like character.But you’re fooling yourselves if you think 5e can ever accurately reflect the specific tactical game play of 4e. The game doesn’t try to do that and it’s ill-suited to shoe-horn the feature in.</blockquote>

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