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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6477214" data-attributes="member: 6776887">It doesn't really follow to criticize someone for making the comparison when it was in response to you making the comparison. But as it stands the the original post is running a -3 on positive influence. I think that is the first post I have seen that so effectively turned the laugh system into a method of downvoting. The XP and laughs for the opposition are overwhelming. There is no battle or war here.When it comes down to it, the EN World forums are filled with people who want to help others with problems they are facing, debate interpretations of rules, and share ideas. They have the intent to fix problems, come to a better knowledge of the system, and better the community.The subject matter of this thread has none of that. It is aimed at creating problems, and the responses to other people weighing in on what they think of it further demonstrates a disinterest in actually gaining wisdom or insight that would help at the gaming table or help others.If you are actually interested in contributing to the sharing of useful information, then go ahead and rephrase the question so we actually understand the real intent.  It is hard to tell when the thread starts with talking about making your DM cry and follows later with dealing with your players.  If we thought there was a serious question in there, we would give a positive response.</blockquote>