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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 4688810" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>One serious question regarding "Daniel" and Starbuck that arises is the implication of the fantasy piano player...</p><p></p><p>As the cut away at the end of that scene suggests - there never was a piano player at all. It was all Starbuck as the victim of some self-projection, creating an entirely illusionary person with whom she was having meaningful and seemingly real interactions as a way of self-discovery and dealing with incredible stress and alienation.</p><p></p><p>She couldn't talk to anybody about finding her own body. The only person other than herself who knew - Leoben - ran from her in fear.</p><p></p><p>But looking back, she's not the only person we have seen start to project internal confessors to share secrets with - secrets so horrible that they cannot tell anybody else, is she?</p><p></p><p>The tie-in with the projection story between Boomer and Tyrol is made plain. It's all themes on Cylon projection - and the implication with Starbuck is that the Hybrids can self-project on a smaller scale and do it unknowingly to themselves...</p><p></p><p>Which leads us back to Baltar and the logical implication that Baltar is also a hybrid. He may be another of Daniel's sons - or some other Cylon parent, one of the Final Five or otherwise. </p><p></p><p>The brain scans on him reveal no chip - because there is no chip to find in a hybrid. The tests cannot detect him either. He appears human - but he is not.</p><p></p><p>Wheter or not Baltar was a sleeper hybrid, or it was just an accident of fate that he was the scientist who proved an easy gateway to the defence codes is unknown...for now.</p><p></p><p>But as a friend of mine has been saying for years, we *know* Baltar is a Cylon. After all, we see him destroyed by a nuclear weapon at the beginning of every show and have since the show started. Nobody could survive the shredding of that overpressure and scything glass - whether he was crouched below Caprica Six or not. </p><p></p><p>That Baltar died. He had to have died.</p><p></p><p>Like Starbuck, he resurrected and was left with no memory of his death and no knowledge of what he was.</p><p></p><p>And after resurrection, his mind started projecting another into it....like Starbuck's is now doing.</p><p></p><p>I think the "Cylon Movie" will reveal to us more about Baltar - and the truth of his origins. But all of this seems to fit the facts, as it were.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 4688810, member: 20741"] One serious question regarding "Daniel" and Starbuck that arises is the implication of the fantasy piano player... As the cut away at the end of that scene suggests - there never was a piano player at all. It was all Starbuck as the victim of some self-projection, creating an entirely illusionary person with whom she was having meaningful and seemingly real interactions as a way of self-discovery and dealing with incredible stress and alienation. She couldn't talk to anybody about finding her own body. The only person other than herself who knew - Leoben - ran from her in fear. But looking back, she's not the only person we have seen start to project internal confessors to share secrets with - secrets so horrible that they cannot tell anybody else, is she? The tie-in with the projection story between Boomer and Tyrol is made plain. It's all themes on Cylon projection - and the implication with Starbuck is that the Hybrids can self-project on a smaller scale and do it unknowingly to themselves... Which leads us back to Baltar and the logical implication that Baltar is also a hybrid. He may be another of Daniel's sons - or some other Cylon parent, one of the Final Five or otherwise. The brain scans on him reveal no chip - because there is no chip to find in a hybrid. The tests cannot detect him either. He appears human - but he is not. Wheter or not Baltar was a sleeper hybrid, or it was just an accident of fate that he was the scientist who proved an easy gateway to the defence codes is unknown...for now. But as a friend of mine has been saying for years, we *know* Baltar is a Cylon. After all, we see him destroyed by a nuclear weapon at the beginning of every show and have since the show started. Nobody could survive the shredding of that overpressure and scything glass - whether he was crouched below Caprica Six or not. That Baltar died. He had to have died. Like Starbuck, he resurrected and was left with no memory of his death and no knowledge of what he was. And after resurrection, his mind started projecting another into it....like Starbuck's is now doing. I think the "Cylon Movie" will reveal to us more about Baltar - and the truth of his origins. But all of this seems to fit the facts, as it were. [/QUOTE]
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