BSG - Who are the Final Five?

[Sir Brennen]

Why not Kara? She's the one with a capital "D" destiny.

Do you think the final five are distinct individual? Or 5 copies of the same being?

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

Why not Kara?

I don't think it would be plausible for Kara to have gone through the experience she did in The Farm, and for her to be a Cylon. They should have been able to recognize her as one of their own given the level of examination she was subjected to. Further, the Adama's and Helo have known her for years and years. That said, her being a Cylon might explain Leoban's obsession with her.

Do you think the final five are distinct individual? Or 5 copies of the same being?

I'm not certain what you mean. All the known models already are copies of the same being; multiple Sixes and multiple Threes and so forth.

 

[andargor]

I still think Ellen Tigh is a cylon. I think at some point it'll be revealed and Saul will really feel betrayed...dup'ed by a cylon for years and then feeling sorry for killing a cylon.

Oh yeah. It is to Kate Vernon's credit that I loathed her character so much.

That would be quite the shock...

 

[the_myth]

You surely have an opinion on the identity of the Final Five Cylons? Pick 5 names and tell us why you think these lowly humans are in fact enlightened Cylons.

Your turn.

My friend John has said from the first season that Laura Roslin might be a Cylon. I can totally see it now too.

Ellen Tigh has always been my fave for Cylon. In fact, thanks to their casting choice, I had always fancied her to actually be a variant Six...

This week I got the distinct impression that Sam Anders might be a Cylon.

I also got the same feeling from Helo/Agathon, but that wouldn't make sense for 2 Cylons to mate, would it?

Oh, and the Priestess Elosha, Roslin's confidante could be another option.

Wow...that's actually 5 choices....

 

[LightPhoenix]

Alright, I wanted to expad a bit on what I said.

There are really five people I do not want to see be Cylons, and I will be upset.

1) Billy, since he was by far the heart of humanity. His being a Cylon would make Roslin's journey into darkness meaningless, since it was his death that started it.

2) Speaking of, Roslin is the second. She's the mother of humanity, and Cylons don't have children. It completely destroys the idea of Roslin/Adama as mother/father figures.

3) Gaeta. Mostly sentimental, but he also fills a "human" role - he's by no means perfect, but he does the best he can.

4) Ellen. Her being a Cylon renders Tigh's journey just as meaningless as Billy being one makes Roslins.

5) Baltar. Like Billy (and Gaeta, to a lesser extent) was everything good about humanity, Baltar is pretty much everything bad. That dichotomy is central to the show - humanity as a whole isn't good or bad, but people can be. He is the anti-Billy.

Now, who would I like to see be a Cylon?

1/2) Alosha, and/or the Oracle. I like the idea of the Cylons subverting faith to guide things.

3) Tory. Billy is killed, and Roslin turns down a dark path. Tory as a Cylon is a great representation of that.

 

[Grymar]

What I don't get is how the Five meld in with the Cylon/Human religions.

The Cylons are monotheistic and yet view these Five as near divine. The humans are polytheistic and yet their pantheon is full, but why are the Five (or representatives) living in an old temple on the way to Earth?

And what do the Five have to do with the Thirteenth Colony?

I feel like I need to study numerology.

 

[satori01]

It is a strange set of circumstances, and implies the Cylons have been around a long time. In the first part of the cliff hanger Laura was about to go into exposition regarding the temple.

The BSG writers of course had her cruelly interrupted but she did say that the temple was the home of 5 priests that worshiped he that was not named.

My current thinking is that the Cylonian god is a Loki like figure in the Colonial Pantheon. Still acknowledged as part of the pantheon but feared, and ignored.

In Part 2 this week, the Cylons made a reference to the five being their programmers. I strongly suspect the five may not have corporeal forms. I also suspect the five were once humans that transfered their consciousness into a device that keeps their minds alive. A proto resurrection ship as it were.

What if Cylons were the name for the worshipers of this hidden god?

 

[andargor]

What I don't get is how the Five meld in with the Cylon/Human religions.

The Cylons are monotheistic and yet view these Five as near divine. The humans are polytheistic and yet their pantheon is full, but why are the Five (or representatives) living in an old temple on the way to Earth?

And what do the Five have to do with the Thirteenth Colony?

I feel like I need to study numerology.

There is speculation that the Five are in fact the Lords of Kobol. Even in a monotheistic religion, there is the concept of divine messengers/apostles/prophets.

Whether the "one god" is the same God as on Earth remains to be seen, but it would be an interesting tie-in (that the Cylons share the same belief as most of the religions of Earth in one God).

 

[sckeener]

What I don't get is how the Five meld in with the Cylon/Human religions.

The Cylons are monotheistic and yet view these Five as near divine.

Some monotheistic religions have saints and devils. I view it in a similar light.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I suspect that the Cylon's God might be Cronos, the Titan that was the father to many of the Greek Gods before they overthrew him.