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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 544213" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>There's no way to tell if Giles is the first, or anything about it. There are three posibilities right now.</p><p>1. Giles is dead, it's actually the first.</p><p>2. Giles ISN'T dead, but it is the first in sunnydale.</p><p>3. Giles isn't dead, this is really him.</p><p></p><p>In support of 1: </p><p>The first can only impersonate dead people.</p><p>We never saw Giles touch anyone. (I actually didn't think that meant much, he wasn't big into touching anyways.)</p><p></p><p>in support of 2: </p><p>The first impersonated Buffy, who isn't CURRENTLY dead. </p><p>There was some reference, at an earlier time, that giles 'died' when he was young, when he was the Ripper.</p><p>(Off topic note: Anyone ever connect Giles being "ripper" with the british "Jack the ripper"?)</p><p></p><p>In support of 3:</p><p></p><p>The first can only impersonate dead people.</p><p>The first has no (from my opinion) reason to bring all the slayers together and give buffy a better chance.</p><p></p><p>As for wether or not the first can manifest in dif. places, it can. Remember the 'dead things' episode, where Willow's talking to the dead girl, and Dawn's in the house with the 'presence'? That happened at the same time.</p><p></p><p>Also like to say that Spike and Giles are the coolest characters on the show. I really hope there's a spin-off with one of them. (What I'ld really like to see, though, is Spike-with-a-soul going to L.A. to join Angel.)</p><p></p><p>Speaking of Angel, could this 'devil' that appeared in L.A. starting an apocalypse be connected to the first? (I hope Joss isn't missing all the cross-over possibilities)</p><p></p><p>I'm gonna stop ranting now. Enjoy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 544213, member: 9026"] There's no way to tell if Giles is the first, or anything about it. There are three posibilities right now. 1. Giles is dead, it's actually the first. 2. Giles ISN'T dead, but it is the first in sunnydale. 3. Giles isn't dead, this is really him. In support of 1: The first can only impersonate dead people. We never saw Giles touch anyone. (I actually didn't think that meant much, he wasn't big into touching anyways.) in support of 2: The first impersonated Buffy, who isn't CURRENTLY dead. There was some reference, at an earlier time, that giles 'died' when he was young, when he was the Ripper. (Off topic note: Anyone ever connect Giles being "ripper" with the british "Jack the ripper"?) In support of 3: The first can only impersonate dead people. The first has no (from my opinion) reason to bring all the slayers together and give buffy a better chance. As for wether or not the first can manifest in dif. places, it can. Remember the 'dead things' episode, where Willow's talking to the dead girl, and Dawn's in the house with the 'presence'? That happened at the same time. Also like to say that Spike and Giles are the coolest characters on the show. I really hope there's a spin-off with one of them. (What I'ld really like to see, though, is Spike-with-a-soul going to L.A. to join Angel.) Speaking of Angel, could this 'devil' that appeared in L.A. starting an apocalypse be connected to the first? (I hope Joss isn't missing all the cross-over possibilities) I'm gonna stop ranting now. Enjoy. [/QUOTE]
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