Buffy series finale (spoilers)

[WizarDru]

Most importantly, TROGDOR the BURNINATOR!!!

BEST. QUOTE. EVAR!

Great episode. I've got to ask, though, if you read all the spoilers and read a writeup from wildfeed, doesn't that strike you as kind of putting the cart before the horse?

Nice set up to allow sequels or movies, but resolved most of what needed to be resolved. Very happy with the 'I'm Every Slayer' concept. A good resolution to the series, especially the destruction of Sunnydale.

As far as Spike is concerned....death by magic item is perhaps the most impermanent type of death.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Well, the story was more or less fine, but it was definitely not the ultimate Buffy storyline. Same complaints as before: some important characters vastly underused almost all season (especially Angel, in these last two), too much inconsistency (the ubervamps that were more powerful than any single slayer before were pretty wimpy, even Xander fought one off), and some poor pacing.

Activating all the potentials was fine (I think many of us saw it coming), but I didn't find how they did it very convincing. First, they introduce some mysterious super-weapon from nowhere. Then, they use it to do activate all the potentials, although there was nothing at all to suggest how they knew they could do this at all.

Spike doesn't believe that Buffy loves him? What? Where did this come from? I could see it with Riley, and what's more, Riley was right. I just don't see where this was coming from.

And they didn't know anything about the amulet's power, right? In other words, Buffy and the others had no plan, other than a big fight? And of course, the First was never really defeated? Ugh.

 

[KenM]

I missed it, can someone please tell me what was said with the DnD and Trogdor scene? When will UPN or FX run it again?

 

[Chun-tzu]

BEST. QUOTE. EVAR!

I really enjoyed the Trogdor reference!

Nice set up to allow sequels or movies, but resolved most of what needed to be resolved. Very happy with the 'I'm Every Slayer' concept. A good resolution to the series, especially the destruction of Sunnydale.

The female empowerment thing was good, but I didn't care for the anti-men edge that was in there. You don't have to be against men to be pro-female.

 

[Jemal]

ANGEL Spoilers... (Maybe)
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Spike on angel.. I've read 3 spoilers of the final episode, and 2 of them said that the very last scene of the Buffy finale would be a hand coming out of the rubble... Now since they were right about the other parts of the show, I'm assuming Joss took the hand part out last minute b/c it was too obvious..
Course then again the whole Spike turning into dust thing IS a bit confusing.
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END Spoilers, enter thoughts.

I liked lots of parts... one of my fave scenes:
Giles: "Oh bugger it, I'll fight." *rolls a d20*.

Also liked the scene where Giles, Buffy, Xander, Willow were standing in the corridor, then the all slowly split off one by one. had a sense of finality to it i thought.. course that could just've been cuz I knew it was the final ep..

I also gotta say, Spike - My favourite character of the entire Series, that was just about the PERFECT way for him to go out.
"He he... I wanna see how this ends"... HAHAHAHABOOM

Also when willow collapsed after doing the spell. "That was nifty"

I guess there was just a lot of little funny parts. Over-all it wasn't quite what I hoped for, but I liked it.

Also something else I noticed.. The first few who went up the stairs and started fighting were the uber vamps, but after a few of them died all the guys upstairs suddenly started fighting Bringers.


And one final thought... The first didn't 'die' cuz he/she/it basically CAN'T die, so won't she just move to the Cleaveland hellmouth?

 

[Crothian]

And they didn't know anything about the amulet's power, right? In other words, Buffy and the others had no plan, other than a big fight? And of course, the First was never really defeated? Ugh.

Wasn't that the plan for most of the Big Bads? And the first was defeated, it was unabler to conquor the world and become solid. Sounds like a win in my book.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Wasn't that the plan for most of the Big Bads? And the first was defeated, it was unabler to conquor the world and become solid. Sounds like a win in my book.

I don't remember the finale of Season 1 very well.
Season 2 it was Angel, pretty even match. I guess there was no real plan.
Season 3, she used explosives against the Mayor.
Season 4, she combined with the others against Adam.
Season 5, she beats Glory using the hammer, and had a plan to rescue Dawn, at least.
Season 6, there wasn't much time for any plans, and Xander defeats big bad Willow.

I agree that the foreshadowing in earlier episodes seemed to imply more. In Conversations with Dead People, Buffy's mom (so was that really the First?) tells Dawn that Buffy wouldn't choose her, that Buffy would be against her. That whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It did foreshadow Buffy's trying to send Dawn away, but that's about it.

 

[Crothian]

Buffy sent Dawn away, Dawn didn't want that. So Buffy was against it. None of the other seasons really ended with plans outside of season 4. The rest they gathered weapons and fought.

 

[Piratecat]

What we thought they were going to do is kill and resuscitate Buffy at the hospital, again and again, until all of the Slayerettes also became Slayers. What they did instead was a bit less satisfying to me, but still fun.

We enjoyed it. I haven't seen all of this season, but I thought it was a good way to end the series. The scene with the four of them bantering, obviously scared to death, we thought was great.

 

[KidCthulhu]

Dunno. I did like it. A great deal. And I just wanna bask in the afterglow right now. Maybe cuddle a little. Not analyze too much.

But it does bug me that after a season in which the "team that can fight anything" can't get their heads out of their a**es to do any research, the frobulon of power has to come from an outside source at the last minute. It would have been so much more powerful if the Scoobies had found it themselves.

The Spike is dead. Long live the Spike.