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[kanithardm]

Can you use a Fabricate spell to turn the target of a Flesh to Stone spell into a stone block? If not can a Polymorph Any Object spell be used to perminently turn a Flesh to Stone victim into a stone block of similar size?

Speaking of which i (being a RBDM) had an NPC wizard use Polymorph Any Object to turn a character into a pebble (20 minute duration) and then used it again to permanently turn him into a rock. hehehe

 

[Saeviomagy]

Speaking of which i (being a RBDM) had an NPC wizard use Polymorph Any Object to turn a character into a pebble (20 minute duration) and then used it again to permanently turn him into a rock. hehehe

Instead of, say, just flesh to stoning him...

I think I've come up with a new law.
The RBDMness of a given DM is inversely proportional to the willingness of the DM to name himself an RBDM.

 

[Rkhet]

Huh. New use for PAO: use two of them to get permanent polymorph into anything. Interesting... twinky, but interesting.

Aha, here's a way to improve on that: tenacious magic. Even if it's successfully dispelled they turn back into a statue after 1d4 rounds.

 

[glass]

Natural Shapeshifter, same sequence: After StF, can revert to normal form as a free action.

I don't think they can. They are not shapeshifters anymore, they are statues.

EDIT: Sorry, missed the bit about houserules.


glass.

 

[Kilroy]

Aha, here's a way to improve on that: tenacious magic. Even if it's successfully dispelled they turn back into a statue after 1d4 rounds.

Wow, that's really RBDMy. I like it!

 

[Jack Simth]

I don't think they can. They are not shapeshifters anymore, they are statues.

EDIT: Sorry, missed the bit about houserules.


glass.

That too, but the big part you missed was the "after StF" (for Stone to Flesh) so that they are warped shapeshifters, not statues. Flesh to Stone works normally on them, as far as I can tell.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

Could you use fabricate to turn a stone block into humanoid shape then stone to flesh it and have the creature be alright (high craft DC obviously). What about just an ordinary stone block? Would you just get a lifeless piece of flesh or would it be a new creature?

 

[Jack Simth]

Could you use fabricate to turn a stone block into humanoid shape then stone to flesh it and have the creature be alright (high craft DC obviously). What about just an ordinary stone block? Would you just get a lifeless piece of flesh or would it be a new creature?

It's dead, by RAW, at least:

The spell also can convert a mass of stone into a fleshy substance. Such flesh is inert and lacking a vital life force unless a life force or magical energy is available. (For example, this spell would turn a stone golem into a flesh golem, but an ordinary statue would become a corpse.) You can affect an object that fits within a cylinder from 1 foot to 3 feet in diameter and up to 10 feet long or a cylinder of up to those dimensions in a larger mass of stone.

(emphasis added)

 

[Aust Diamondew]

I was talking about a square stone fabricated from a creature (as was the original idea of the thread) that had been flesh to stoned being re fabricated into the shape of a creature and then being stone to fleshed.

Hope that cleared up what I meant but it was proably just confusing.

 

[gamefiend]

Wow. This gave me an awesome idea...at least I think so.

So BBEG is powerful cruel archmage. He takes over a kingdom, and his first act is the grab all the inhabitants (including royal family) of the royal castle and surrounding villages, and using FtS and fab turns them all into the stone blocks for his new tower.
The castle of course is haunted by the now enslaved souls of the old kingdom. They might even be slowly driving the mage insane...

Two adventure ideas that could come from this.
The first is pretty standard -- the mage is looking to mobilize an army of undead and the players must go into the tower and stop him.

The second I really like. The mage actually hires the PCs (works best if PCs are outsiders to area that don't know the region's history) to exterminate the ghosts. The mage has taken up residency somewhere else because the ghosts are driving him crazy. The PCs start up a whole "ghostbusters" schtick, only to find out why the ghosts are haunting the tower. Then they have to decide what to do about that mage...

Sorry to get off track, but I totally dug the idea and wanted to share on the thread that inspired it.



Whaddya think?