But Undead isnt a race...?

elephantgrey

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Skip to the end if you dont want to read a half relevant story from my last session:

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Im playing i a 4e spelljammer campaign at the moment, and out party came across a ship floating about in space, with a giant hole in the side of it. When we went in to investigate the ship we found that everyone onboard we could find was dead. That is untill we came to the last room in the ship where we found a skeleton and two ghouls, at which point the paladin come out with the usual lines about how all undead are evil and should be killed, blah blah blah (i must explain that our DM has a rule where no one player can force combat by just going , i attack them. It has to be a majority decision by the group). at that point i decided i wanted to talk to the skeleton, and called the paladin a racist. The reply from the group was that undead arnt a race, so hating them wasnt racism.
We then found out that the skeleton was upset because her husband (a necromancer) was hiding from her onboard the ship somewhere. We eventually tracked him down and found out that he was hiding because, whilst he loved his wife, he didnt want to become an undead like her, he wanted to keep his body intact. He told us that he could fix her if we brought him bodies to practice the ritual on (dead or alive).
So we left the session deciding what to do, help them by brining them bodies to practice on, just leaving, or killing the undead. Also it turned out that they where evil, they had killed the members of the crew, even the ones that didnt volunteer to be turned into undead. But my standpoint was, whats a shady past to a silt pirate from darksun whos captain of a spelljammer
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Basically my question is, if i cant call the paladin a racist for hating all undead indiscriminately, because undead arnt a race, what is a better word?
-EG
 

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Basically my question is, if i cant call the paladin a racist for hating all undead indiscriminately, because undead arnt a race, what is a better word?
-EG

Pious? Sensible? Sane? Vitalist?

It depends on your campaign really, it comes down to what must be done to make people undead? What do the gods think about it? Are the laws of nature broken by this? Do undead have urges to kill?

At best, necromancy is like a weapon of mass destruction that has been perfected by causing unspeakable suffering on unspeakable millions throughout history.

Put yourself in your characters shoes. How would they react when faced by an undead being? Are they being ho-hum about it?
 

Its a spelljammer campaign, so setting stuff just depends on the sphere were in…
As far as my character, there is presedent of him being nonchalant about evil npcs that arnt actualy being evil toward him, especialy if they arnt being necessarily malicious.
 


the creation of undead is evil (or usually is, depending on your ethos), but not all undead are evil.

It is evil to turn a paladin into an undead tomb-guardian, but the resulting guardian need not be evil. Some paladins may even volunteer to give up their life to protect the tomb forever (The ultimate sacrifice!)

There are also naturally occurring undead... Ghosts with unfinished business in life and stuff like that. These undead also need not be evil.
 


We in the metabolically-impaired community are shocked and offended by your use of the offensive term "undead". We are not "un-" anything, and since we have in fact died we are certainly not "un-dead". We prefer to be referred to as "metabolically challenged", "differently alive", "recovering oxyholic", or "deceased but active". Thanks for your consideration.

--Xylomandras Doomshade, Public Relations liaison, Respect Your Ancestors
 

Basically my question is, if i cant call the paladin a racist for hating all undead indiscriminately, because undead arnt a race, what is a better word?

I wouldn't waste time thinking about it. You may not have said the pinpoint accurate word but everyone at the table understood your meaning and any who argued over the accusation were conciously being contrary.

(Although Incenjucar said it perfectly for you.)
 


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