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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4845288" data-attributes="member: 43019">I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on how much you're helping your case, but I'd suggest that you certainly haven't shown that someone who is dead is conscious or moving around by RAW, so attempting to use it as an example of how RAW shouldn't be observed is a bit far fetched.A rules question was asked - are you Bloodied at 0 or lower. It as a fact that by RAW, you are. Some people believed it worked otherwise, and those people are more than entitled to play differently in their home games. I'd find it mighty odd if people played D&D without ever changing any rules, myself.Now, is it intended that bloodied not apply at 0 or lower? It's often unclear what the designers intended - and in this case I'd not be surprised if different designers had _different intentions_. It is certainly the case that there are monster and PC abilities that assume bloodied applies and end up working oddly if you rule otherwise. Easily addressed, mind you. Put another way - I use several house rules, such as a rod of reaving not actually killing a minion automatically. When someone asks on a forum 'Hey, does a Rod of Reaving actually kill a minion?' I answer either 'Yes' or 'Yes, which is one reason of dozens that I use <this house rule>' or something similar. This isn't a case of 'hey, no bad wrong fun, not allowed'. There is a simple rule. You're presenting it incorrectly. Done.Arguing that a mathematic characteristic of a character should be subject to DM fiat is ludicrous - do halfling paladins with 14 Con have less surges than dragonborn paladins with 14 Con, because halflings are wimpier looking? You're simply not arguing about an aspect of the rules that _should_ be up to DM fiat, like 'hey what happens if I knock the hell hound into the river, will it put out his flame aura while he's in it?' or 'Hey, I want to try and lightning bolt the rock face over there to cause an avalanche... how?'Cause boy, those are great things for a DM call. Not "I'm at 0 hp of 78 and have resist 5 until I'm no longer bloodied... so are my hp still below 39?" "No, 0 is not lower than 39, sorry."</blockquote>

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