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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ferghis" data-source="post: 5561875" data-attributes="member: 40483">If you can put the protection back up as a minor action, the vulnerability almost never enters play. You'd have to either be dazed and REALLY have something more urgent to do, or stunned. Daze and stun powers have a fun-killing way about them, since they exclude players from the action, so the DM has to use them sparingly. Similarly, this could happen if the character is unconscious, but see my post above about the coup de grace idea.If it's out of combat, it doesn't really need to be given combat details. Plenty of DMG monsters simply state something like "If the vampire is in direct sunlight and does not get out of it immediately, it dies." More to the point, and I hate to put it this way, that's not what I'm interested in exploring here. I want to know how this class feature is implemented in combat.If a DM is trying to punish a player for character choices, you have worse problems than this vulnerability. I don't think this is something that should be attempted every encounter. But it should be something a vampire character should be concerned about, and it's something that the DM should play up to (just like a character's strengths). As in everything, balance is necessary. I agree that creating dramatic tension out of combat is great, but 4e tends to leave the out-of-combat parts of the game up to the DM, while focusing on the combat details to make that part of the game fun. I'm interested in figuring out how this nugget gets actually used in combat, since they've made the effort of describing it in combat terms.</blockquote>

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