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Can a DM expose a vampire character to sunlight with combat actions?
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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5562645" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>Hmm, I don't think this should be something common in combat. Not one of the suggestions in the thread here is really suitable for that; and in any case, if it <em>were</em> a regular occurence, I'd assume the PC wouldn't take it lightly and simply use a leather ski-mask or whatever: something you can't take off without ample time or decapitation.</p><p></p><p>And then there's reasonable fairness: you don't take off people's headslot items either, do you? Or tear off their amulets? Catch their ioun stones? If you haven't, then why is it OK to start now? There's just no way to exploit the vampire's vulnerability rules in a fashion that can't fairly trivially be used to exploit PC's in general.</p><p></p><p>This whole issue only crops up because the PC happens to have a vulnerability, so it seems like you <em>must</em> use this vulnerability in combat. I don't think that makes sense. The way the vulnerability is written, it's just really hard to exploit in-combat. And that's just fine. </p><p></p><p>You don't <em>have</em> to exploit it in-combat. And you don't <em>have</em> to exploit it in a mundane fashion. You can roleplay it (lends itself perfectly to that!), and you can use a plot-driven creature specifically capable of using the vulnerability (rather than a general, mundane tactic). You still get the flavor, you get the drawbacks, but you don't have to come up with new (rather farfetched) mechanics, and then selectively target just one PC for no really apparent reason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5562645, member: 51942"] Hmm, I don't think this should be something common in combat. Not one of the suggestions in the thread here is really suitable for that; and in any case, if it [I]were[/I] a regular occurence, I'd assume the PC wouldn't take it lightly and simply use a leather ski-mask or whatever: something you can't take off without ample time or decapitation. And then there's reasonable fairness: you don't take off people's headslot items either, do you? Or tear off their amulets? Catch their ioun stones? If you haven't, then why is it OK to start now? There's just no way to exploit the vampire's vulnerability rules in a fashion that can't fairly trivially be used to exploit PC's in general. This whole issue only crops up because the PC happens to have a vulnerability, so it seems like you [I]must[/I] use this vulnerability in combat. I don't think that makes sense. The way the vulnerability is written, it's just really hard to exploit in-combat. And that's just fine. You don't [I]have[/I] to exploit it in-combat. And you don't [I]have[/I] to exploit it in a mundane fashion. You can roleplay it (lends itself perfectly to that!), and you can use a plot-driven creature specifically capable of using the vulnerability (rather than a general, mundane tactic). You still get the flavor, you get the drawbacks, but you don't have to come up with new (rather farfetched) mechanics, and then selectively target just one PC for no really apparent reason. [/QUOTE]
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