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Can a DM expose a vampire character to sunlight with combat actions?
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<blockquote data-quote="IanB" data-source="post: 5565404" data-attributes="member: 1473"><p>I don't have it in front of me, but I'm referring to the sentence telling the player, in effect, "you can ignore the sun part of your radiant weakness by wearing a cloak or heavy clothing," which by my recollection is in the same paragraph saying what happens if you happen to wander out into the sun without protection.</p><p></p><p>In other words, I think the intent behind the sun stuff is give you some vampire flavor, not a weakness that's supposed to be coming up all the time in combat. More along the lines of a wizard needing his spellbook - it is something that you once in a while go after for a dramatic reason but you don't have people trying to steal it every fight. It is something that should be coming up in out of combat situations more than in combat situations, I feel.</p><p></p><p>There's certainly no mechanical reason that the vampire needs the weakness to see use to be balanced, which means hammering away at it with a mechanic that any monster can use has the potential to make that character dramatically less effective than it 'should' be and to annoy the player of the character to boot.</p><p></p><p>I think the biggest problem with the 'any monster can do it' approach is minions. The opportunity cost for a minion (or two or three) to use their action to do this to a vampire is *extremely* low, and that goes for any of the equivalent 'improv' disarm type maneuvers people are describing in this thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IanB, post: 5565404, member: 1473"] I don't have it in front of me, but I'm referring to the sentence telling the player, in effect, "you can ignore the sun part of your radiant weakness by wearing a cloak or heavy clothing," which by my recollection is in the same paragraph saying what happens if you happen to wander out into the sun without protection. In other words, I think the intent behind the sun stuff is give you some vampire flavor, not a weakness that's supposed to be coming up all the time in combat. More along the lines of a wizard needing his spellbook - it is something that you once in a while go after for a dramatic reason but you don't have people trying to steal it every fight. It is something that should be coming up in out of combat situations more than in combat situations, I feel. There's certainly no mechanical reason that the vampire needs the weakness to see use to be balanced, which means hammering away at it with a mechanic that any monster can use has the potential to make that character dramatically less effective than it 'should' be and to annoy the player of the character to boot. I think the biggest problem with the 'any monster can do it' approach is minions. The opportunity cost for a minion (or two or three) to use their action to do this to a vampire is *extremely* low, and that goes for any of the equivalent 'improv' disarm type maneuvers people are describing in this thread. [/QUOTE]
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