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Can a hasted bladesinger cast a cantrip with the haste extra action
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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8283180" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>As written, yes. The issue, though, is that specific beats general. So we have a general rule that says extra attacks give a bonus attack. Then we have a specific rule in the spell haste that prevents it. We ALSO have a specific rule in the feature that MIGHT(depending on how you read it) allow you to sub a spell in for that attack. </p><p></p><p>Whether or not the ability has precedence over haste is a ruling matter for the DM. RAW doesn't say anything more than both the feature and spell are examples of specific abilities. So the DM needs to make three rulings. First, is the ability to sub in a cantrip for an attack part of the extra attack or is it separate. Second, since you can't get the extra attack when you haste, can you even apply the feature and have it fizzle. Three, is the feature of the Bladesinger more specific than haste, less or the same.</p><p></p><p>If the DM rules that the ability is separate from the extra attack feature or that you can apply a feature that can't work in order to get the secondary effect, AND he rules that it is more specific than haste, then the cantrip can be used, despite the haste language. Otherwise it cannot. RAW is completely silent on all of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8283180, member: 23751"] As written, yes. The issue, though, is that specific beats general. So we have a general rule that says extra attacks give a bonus attack. Then we have a specific rule in the spell haste that prevents it. We ALSO have a specific rule in the feature that MIGHT(depending on how you read it) allow you to sub a spell in for that attack. Whether or not the ability has precedence over haste is a ruling matter for the DM. RAW doesn't say anything more than both the feature and spell are examples of specific abilities. So the DM needs to make three rulings. First, is the ability to sub in a cantrip for an attack part of the extra attack or is it separate. Second, since you can't get the extra attack when you haste, can you even apply the feature and have it fizzle. Three, is the feature of the Bladesinger more specific than haste, less or the same. If the DM rules that the ability is separate from the extra attack feature or that you can apply a feature that can't work in order to get the secondary effect, AND he rules that it is more specific than haste, then the cantrip can be used, despite the haste language. Otherwise it cannot. RAW is completely silent on all of that. [/QUOTE]
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