Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9588983" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>The Champion in our current game at 18th level will hit 200 pretty regularly with Action Surge.</p><p></p><p>He crits on an 18, wields a Vicious Maul and has GWM (2024 version).</p><p></p><p>He also has a Belt of Giant Strength and a Hammer of Thunderbolts, which boosts Strength quite a bit.</p><p></p><p>In terms of math, keep in mind a high level Champion with GWM is usually going to get 7 attacks, not 6, when they action surge (or 9 attacks at 20th level) and if he is 19th or 20th level the Irresistible Offence feat is going to let him add his strength score to damage on those crits, which is going to be another +20 or more damage per crit.</p><p></p><p>With those things in mind, at 20th level, even using no magic at all, a maul with a 22 strength, BOII and GWM is going to average 48 damage on a crit. At 20th level 9 straight Crits (admitedly not likely) is going to do 432 average. This is not something I have seen in play, nor anything close to this, but it illustrates the top damage with no magic at all is way above 200.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well Vicious weapons do that now and they are not really all that fancy and up the average crit damage at 20th level to 62, with GWM, BOIII and no other magic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9588983, member: 7030563"] The Champion in our current game at 18th level will hit 200 pretty regularly with Action Surge. He crits on an 18, wields a Vicious Maul and has GWM (2024 version). He also has a Belt of Giant Strength and a Hammer of Thunderbolts, which boosts Strength quite a bit. In terms of math, keep in mind a high level Champion with GWM is usually going to get 7 attacks, not 6, when they action surge (or 9 attacks at 20th level) and if he is 19th or 20th level the Irresistible Offence feat is going to let him add his strength score to damage on those crits, which is going to be another +20 or more damage per crit. With those things in mind, at 20th level, even using no magic at all, a maul with a 22 strength, BOII and GWM is going to average 48 damage on a crit. At 20th level 9 straight Crits (admitedly not likely) is going to do 432 average. This is not something I have seen in play, nor anything close to this, but it illustrates the top damage with no magic at all is way above 200. Well Vicious weapons do that now and they are not really all that fancy and up the average crit damage at 20th level to 62, with GWM, BOIII and no other magic. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?
Top