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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9658157" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Given I have far more experience with the than I have with any other system...and I've played numerous PF1e and 3.5e games and multiple games with several other systems...Respectfully, you don't know crap about my gaming experience, Zardnaar.I have never, not once ever in more than ten years of playing 5e, seen a combat where a martial character got out without taking damage. Never.Now I genuinely wonder how much you play if you think that's even remotely common.Which still means the casters are flexing on the noncasters....I will admit that I have never played past level...11 I think? Like we reached 12 but it was functionally no different from never playing 12. LMoP->PaB:TSO.We played in a party where I was the only spellcaster and definitely the only healer (Celestial Bladelock, with a bit of Tome for fun). I could never reliably use more than 1 spell for combat purposes because I needed to hold onto them for saving lives, sometimes literally once I got revivify (which, yes, I needed to use twice, and could have used three times if I'd had it earlier than 5th level). I never had any Healing Light dice at the end of a day. We always burned through all of our HD and usually at least 2 healing potions apiece each day, which is the equivalent of at least one spell slot each on top of my warlock slots. And we took more short rests than is expected (like a LOT more), AND we often went multiple days without combat so we could always have all of our HD on hand, and we still barely made it through several adventuring days in that campaign.So maybe instead of condescendingly telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about, maybe consider I might actually have a clue and my experience radically differs from yours.I can say that an optimized Barbarian can be quite scary over a long combat, but 5e trends toward fast combats which actually punish the (pre-5.5e) Barb because they can't get Rages back by short rests. My character was using the "One D&D" playtest packet 7 rules, otherwise everyone was standard 5.0 because 5.5e was more than six months away when I joined...and I can 100% say that without that extra spell slot from the updated rules, I'm pretty sure at least one character would have died.Just using flaming sphere (still kinda sad they took that out of Celestial, I thought it was very thematic and much better than getting two support spells for 2nd level), though, I could quite easily do respectable damage, and between blade and blast, I was dangerous at any range. Our Barbarian probably did out damage me...because I was trying to be mostly support with just a reliable backstop of damage, rather than to outdo them.Sadly I never really got to make the most use out of my best damage spell. Sickening radiance. We just never found chances to lock people inside its area so we would avoid it and they'd just straight up die of either the damage or the exhaustion.</blockquote>

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