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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9661774" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I was using reference material (repeated in multiple places) which referred to this as "DPR", not as the other. If they used the term wrongly, I apologize, but I went with what I found.Even still, this party should be facing...y'know...CR 5 or higher opponents some of the time. And they should probably be getting more than five encounters between long rests at least some of the time. And, and, and.So, okay, sure--I made one possible, debatable, error that might bias things against the potions. I then intentionally dropped the damage by 10% already, AND allowed for it to be split across multiple days.It still isn't enough. I stand by my argument. Unless and until someone is willing to crunch numbers in a way that is clearly NOT biased favorably toward the claims being made, I am quite comfortable saying that the data does not support the claim that having a stash of 30 potions on hand is "plenty"--if the group is in fact actually running the game the way the designers designed it.If they are instead running far fewer combats (IME the actual culprit here), or far easier combats, or getting way more treasure than intended much earlier on, then of course potions could easily be enough--the party literally isn't facing the level of danger the game was designed for. And, in particular? Running fewer combats per day, against easier opponents, is more favorable to casters than non-casters. Then they don't even NEED to argue that the group should stop and rest--the group already IS stopping and resting at times and in ways that promote far too many spells per combat!</blockquote>

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