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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8515068" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>No problem. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am a fan of 1e OA, I thought it had the best martial arts systems throughout D&D editions.</p><p></p><p>I was really not a fan of the honor system in 1e OA but most of the rest I thought was overall very good stuff.</p><p></p><p>I had a bunch of the OA modules but never ran any of them. Mostly I knew of Kara Tur as the OA setting where a bunch of modules were set that fleshed out different regions, a series of regions that got placed in the East of Forgotten Realms, the Fantasy China Shou Lung was featured heavily in the early Hordes novel trilogy, and Shou Lung was a cool faction in Spelljammer. Kara Tur itself featured very lightly in the OA book itself, being fleshed out in the modules and then the setting boxed set later (which I only got long after my AD&D era).</p><p></p><p>The criticisms of OA that got under my skin were factually incorrect and making false inferences based on ignorance.</p><p></p><p>I watched a two and a half hour video (the first of a series of over 20) of two guys reviewing 1e OA in depth that went on for over an hour about how OA sexually fetishized and exoticized east Asians through the introduction of the comeliness mechanics and how it fed into the stereotypes of the sexy Dragon Lady and the unattractive Asian man. The fact that comeliness was developed specifically for OA and only applied to Asians was a big point.</p><p></p><p>1e comeliness mechanics were terrible and based on fairly terrible attractiveness tropes, but they factually were not designed to apply only to Asians and did not originate in 1e OA. They were reprinted from the earlier printed generic 1e AD&D Unearthed Arcana where they applied to all D&D characters, and the earlier printed 1e World of Greyhawk boxed set as a new god stat, and they originally showed up as a Dragon Magazine article.</p><p></p><p>It was just factually incorrect to say Comeliness was created specifically to fetishize Asians.</p><p></p><p>I did not watch the follow up videos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8515068, member: 2209"] No problem. :) I am a fan of 1e OA, I thought it had the best martial arts systems throughout D&D editions. I was really not a fan of the honor system in 1e OA but most of the rest I thought was overall very good stuff. I had a bunch of the OA modules but never ran any of them. Mostly I knew of Kara Tur as the OA setting where a bunch of modules were set that fleshed out different regions, a series of regions that got placed in the East of Forgotten Realms, the Fantasy China Shou Lung was featured heavily in the early Hordes novel trilogy, and Shou Lung was a cool faction in Spelljammer. Kara Tur itself featured very lightly in the OA book itself, being fleshed out in the modules and then the setting boxed set later (which I only got long after my AD&D era). The criticisms of OA that got under my skin were factually incorrect and making false inferences based on ignorance. I watched a two and a half hour video (the first of a series of over 20) of two guys reviewing 1e OA in depth that went on for over an hour about how OA sexually fetishized and exoticized east Asians through the introduction of the comeliness mechanics and how it fed into the stereotypes of the sexy Dragon Lady and the unattractive Asian man. The fact that comeliness was developed specifically for OA and only applied to Asians was a big point. 1e comeliness mechanics were terrible and based on fairly terrible attractiveness tropes, but they factually were not designed to apply only to Asians and did not originate in 1e OA. They were reprinted from the earlier printed generic 1e AD&D Unearthed Arcana where they applied to all D&D characters, and the earlier printed 1e World of Greyhawk boxed set as a new god stat, and they originally showed up as a Dragon Magazine article. It was just factually incorrect to say Comeliness was created specifically to fetishize Asians. I did not watch the follow up videos. [/QUOTE]
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