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Can we stop the Angel Summoner BMX Bandit comparisons
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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5909771" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Or any game that did <em>not</em> run like those videos, deserved a lot of credit to the DM for overcoming the system. Or it just didn't come up because the caster players made blaster wizards and healbot clerics and never thought, "You know, <em>glitterdust</em> totally owned that encounter with the orcs. Maybe I'll prep another one today... Dang. This spell owns <em>every</em> encounter. It's crazy good. Why am I wasting a slot on <em>Melf's acid arrow</em> again? I wonder if there are other spells like this. I think I'll get Spell Focus: Conjuration next level."</p><p></p><p>(Although, to be fair, <em>glitterdust</em> was in a class by itself until you got to really high levels or busted out the splatbooks. When you see somebody casting a +4 Heightened <em>glitterdust</em> in preference to actual 6th-level spells, it's a sign that there might be a problem...)</p><p></p><p>I have experienced Angel Summoner/BMX Bandit problems multiple times in the past. Usually it was unintentional; someone made a character and didn't realized how much it would suck or rock relative to the rest of the party. Once the issue became apparent, the DM and players would work out a solution, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody had to step in and compensate for the shortcomings of the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This helps, too. You <em>can</em> make a broken caster before level 10, but 10-12 is when it starts to become apparent even if you aren't optimizing hard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 5909771, member: 58197"] Or any game that did [I]not[/I] run like those videos, deserved a lot of credit to the DM for overcoming the system. Or it just didn't come up because the caster players made blaster wizards and healbot clerics and never thought, "You know, [I]glitterdust[/I] totally owned that encounter with the orcs. Maybe I'll prep another one today... Dang. This spell owns [I]every[/I] encounter. It's crazy good. Why am I wasting a slot on [I]Melf's acid arrow[/I] again? I wonder if there are other spells like this. I think I'll get Spell Focus: Conjuration next level." (Although, to be fair, [I]glitterdust[/I] was in a class by itself until you got to really high levels or busted out the splatbooks. When you see somebody casting a +4 Heightened [I]glitterdust[/I] in preference to actual 6th-level spells, it's a sign that there might be a problem...) I have experienced Angel Summoner/BMX Bandit problems multiple times in the past. Usually it was unintentional; someone made a character and didn't realized how much it would suck or rock relative to the rest of the party. Once the issue became apparent, the DM and players would work out a solution, but that doesn't change the fact that somebody had to step in and compensate for the shortcomings of the game. This helps, too. You [I]can[/I] make a broken caster before level 10, but 10-12 is when it starts to become apparent even if you aren't optimizing hard. [/QUOTE]
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