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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5693893" data-attributes="member: 2011">Well, 4E already has meta-magic.Dispel Magic, Devour Magic, Stretch Spell.There's not a lot of it.And I don't think that just because designers had difficulty with this in earlier editions means that with the more power restricted elements in 4E, that they cannot do it well in the future. Part of the issue in the past was that spells like Dispel Magic would work on many types of magic. Limiting the magic is one way to get it under control, but the issue then becomes that the PC only has so many Daily powers, so it becomes an issue of utility. Dispel Zone isn't helpful if all you run into is Auras (assuming such a model which doesn't have to be the case).But, one of the things I like about earlier editions is the fact that magic was distinct from mundane. Essentials, in some cases, has brought us back to that slightly. The Slayer just feels like a combat monkey with not many special super powers.</blockquote>