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<blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1162795" data-attributes="member: 14214"><p>Did I miss something? When/where did y'all discover a limitation on the 'number' of free actions in a round? So allowing a quickened wand spell is a 'bad' idea in my opinion... per the 'rules' any way <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>So I'll take a free action to use my wand of quickened magic missiles. Hmm, it didn't die? I think I'll take a second free action to use my wand. A third. A fourth. I'm getting impressed, but I still have free actions!</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Ok, ok, I thought this was obvious, but re-reading the thread - maybe not. Here goes...</p><p></p><p>You can place the metamagicked spell in a wand (heightened charm example above). Theoretically you can place a quickened spell therein as well, but doing so avails you nought.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and </p><p></p><p>and </p><p></p><p>So wand activation is standard action + casting time (if longer than standard action) regardless - unless a specific item description says otherwise.</p><p></p><p>Now, with all the disclaimers they put in, you could argue that a wand of quickened MM could be made to be a COMMAND WORD activation, thus:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and that speaking a word is a free action... But this leads to the abuse I showed above...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now as to metamagicked wands - so long as the spell level (NOT caster level) is 4th or less, you can do it... The table in the SRD even shows several such examples,</p><p>Hold person, heightened (4th level) for one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tilla the Hun (work), post: 1162795, member: 14214"] Did I miss something? When/where did y'all discover a limitation on the 'number' of free actions in a round? So allowing a quickened wand spell is a 'bad' idea in my opinion... per the 'rules' any way :) So I'll take a free action to use my wand of quickened magic missiles. Hmm, it didn't die? I think I'll take a second free action to use my wand. A third. A fourth. I'm getting impressed, but I still have free actions! EDIT: Ok, ok, I thought this was obvious, but re-reading the thread - maybe not. Here goes... You can place the metamagicked spell in a wand (heightened charm example above). Theoretically you can place a quickened spell therein as well, but doing so avails you nought. and and So wand activation is standard action + casting time (if longer than standard action) regardless - unless a specific item description says otherwise. Now, with all the disclaimers they put in, you could argue that a wand of quickened MM could be made to be a COMMAND WORD activation, thus: and that speaking a word is a free action... But this leads to the abuse I showed above... Now as to metamagicked wands - so long as the spell level (NOT caster level) is 4th or less, you can do it... The table in the SRD even shows several such examples, Hold person, heightened (4th level) for one. [/QUOTE]
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