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<blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 195259" data-attributes="member: 3940">That would be the problem... except for the fact that you must be WILLING for all spells or unwilling for all spells while unconcious; being unable to tell which one was which.&nbsp; If you can be &quot;neither willing nor unwilling&quot; - the object rules cometh down; which to my amazement...this is the &quot;neither willing nor unwilling&quot; argument that works due to the inherent nature of wisdom.Actually, it is the &quot;harmless&quot; portion that only applies to undead.&nbsp; Again - you are unable to percieve what spell is being cast upon you.&nbsp; You MUST not only be able to (evidently) discern this spell - but must choose to resist it as well.The former is inherrently impossible, and the latter could only occur if you were able to (while so unconcious) resist ALL spells cast upon your person.&nbsp; You can't do this.The stratagem works; you can teleport the unconcious as if they were objects.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magus_Jerel, post: 195259, member: 3940"] That would be the problem... except for the fact that you must be WILLING for all spells or unwilling for all spells while unconcious; being unable to tell which one was which. If you can be "neither willing nor unwilling" - the object rules cometh down; which to my amazement... this is the "neither willing nor unwilling" argument that works due to the inherent nature of wisdom. Actually, it is the "harmless" portion that only applies to undead. Again - you are unable to percieve what spell is being cast upon you. You MUST not only be able to (evidently) discern this spell - but must choose to resist it as well. The former is inherrently impossible, and the latter could only occur if you were able to (while so unconcious) resist ALL spells cast upon your person. You can't do this. The stratagem works; you can teleport the unconcious as if they were objects. [/QUOTE]

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