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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Volefisk" data-source="post: 195663" data-attributes="member: 4497">I beg to differ, but you are still making a classic logic error. As you have pointed out, the rules state that "any creature that can perceive its environment in any fashion has at least 1 point of Wisdom." You are assuming that this relationship is reversable. You are making a leap of logic to assume that 'any creature that cannot perceive its environment in any fashion has a Wisdom of zero.'This position is no more supportable than if someone claimed 'any creature that cannot perceive its environment in any fashion has a Wisdom of 18' (because obviously they cannot have a 1; 18 is just as arbitrary a number as 0 in this instance).If I told you that all words have at least one letter in them, could we logically infer that "hfuiwhfw" has no letters in it (because it is gibberish, rather than a word)? Of course not. Case in point Animated Objects in the MM. They are objects, not creatures, and yet they have Wisdom scores. Not only is your supposition not supported by logic, but also not by the rules themselves.Being unable to perceive does not make you an object. Being able to perceive merely grants you at least 1 Wisdom.And just to make my position clear, I support being able to teleport away unconscious creatures. I just don't think it's a position supported by the rules or the spell description.<volefisk></blockquote>