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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8650648" data-attributes="member: 5889">Really this entire argument comes down to this consideration....at what point do you check the dueling condition to get the bonus?1) For example, if you rule that you have to have meet the condition at the start of your turn, then the TWF combo is not possible. However, that also means that if a person were to pick up a weapon (starting with none), they could not gain the benefits of dueling either, as the condition specifically says you only get the +2 damage with the weapon you are wielding...which in this interpretation would be the weapon you were wielding at the beginning of the turn.2) If we instead say we check dueling at the moment the attack is made...than this combo is legal RAW.3) If we check dueling when the attack action is started, than the combo would not work, as at that point you have weapons in your two hands and so would activate TWF, but would not activate dueling. However, this interpretation also means that you could not attack, draw a weapon into your second hand, and attack with TWF bonus (you would have to draw the weapon first, then attack twice....in 99% of cases this is is just ordering semantics, there is probably SOME scenario where that matters, but its super rare).We can then consider this in the context of another scenario, to "test" how your DM runs their interpretation.If you make an attack, and then move through some myst that poisons you (aka half damage) and then make a second attack, do you rule that the second attack's damage is halved or not?If you rule that it does, than your saying the damage modifiers are not checked until the attack is made (scenario 2 above). If you rule that it doesn't, we are probably more in Scenario 3 territory.My assumption is that most people utilize scenario 2 above, they don't actually consider modifiers until the attack is happening. In which case, the TWF + dueling thrown combo is street legal. Is it RAI...probably not. Is it OP?....eh, I mean you need two fighting styles to make it work and your using thrown weapons which aren't normally on any optimizers christmas list, so its probably not that bad.</blockquote>

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