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Can you use dueling and TWF at the same time? I think you can RAW.
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8651010" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>So to start with I am talking about the two weapon fighting mechanics (not the style just the action-boonus action sequence) and the dueling fighting style. It is not an either or proposition and I think you are the one conflating an attack with the attack action.</p><p></p><p><strong>1. You take the attack action with two weapons equipped. Because of this, you get a bonus attack.</strong></p><p>This is absolutely true. If you take the attack action with 2 light melee weapons equipped you qualify for TWF.</p><p></p><p>In the example I did this - I have a weapon in each hand and take the <u>attack action</u> to throw one of those weapons. I therefore qualify for TWF per the rules on TWF. As a bonus action I can throw the second weapon or I can attack with it in melee (assuming both had the light and thrown properties). In this case I am choosing to make a melee attack with it.</p><p></p><p><strong>2. You take the attack action with one weapon equipped. You get the +2 bonus from dueling.</strong></p><p>This is absolutely untrue. Using the attack action is not a requirement at all for the dueling fighting style RAW. Dueling says nothing at all about the attack action.</p><p></p><p><em>Dueling Fighting Style: "When you are wielding a melee weapon in one hand and no other weapons, you gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls with that weapon."</em></p><p></p><p>If you have this fighting style you do +2 damage to an opponent with a weapon you are holding in one hand as long as you are not holding another weapon. This has nothing to do with attack action and applies to all damage with a weapon being held in one hand as long as you are holding no other weapons. You even get the dueling bonus on a reaction attack or on an attack with a haste action or on any attack you make with the weapon while only holding it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8651010, member: 7030563"] So to start with I am talking about the two weapon fighting mechanics (not the style just the action-boonus action sequence) and the dueling fighting style. It is not an either or proposition and I think you are the one conflating an attack with the attack action. [B]1. You take the attack action with two weapons equipped. Because of this, you get a bonus attack.[/B] This is absolutely true. If you take the attack action with 2 light melee weapons equipped you qualify for TWF. In the example I did this - I have a weapon in each hand and take the [U]attack action[/U] to throw one of those weapons. I therefore qualify for TWF per the rules on TWF. As a bonus action I can throw the second weapon or I can attack with it in melee (assuming both had the light and thrown properties). In this case I am choosing to make a melee attack with it. [B]2. You take the attack action with one weapon equipped. You get the +2 bonus from dueling.[/B] This is absolutely untrue. Using the attack action is not a requirement at all for the dueling fighting style RAW. Dueling says nothing at all about the attack action. [I]Dueling Fighting Style: "When you are wielding a melee weapon in one hand and no other weapons, you gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls with that weapon."[/I] If you have this fighting style you do +2 damage to an opponent with a weapon you are holding in one hand as long as you are not holding another weapon. This has nothing to do with attack action and applies to all damage with a weapon being held in one hand as long as you are holding no other weapons. You even get the dueling bonus on a reaction attack or on an attack with a haste action or on any attack you make with the weapon while only holding it. [/QUOTE]
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