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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8432862" data-attributes="member: 7032025">I like to use that argument in some cases, just be aware that this is only if magic does not take into account more local referentials. For example, in fiction, many magic systems are complex because the incantation depends on conditions, which are precisely that kind of thing, where you are, how humid the air is, the air pressure, etc.So while it can certainly be used in some settings, nothing says that long range teleportation magic does not take this into account, including other things like air pressure, etc. Exactly. And see above about conditions on spells in fiction, they might compensate for some things and not for others, it's really local rulings.First, don't think that anything specifies this. It can be that light goes in both directions, but matter is instantaneously transfered, but again you have to be careful, first a wormhole is only considered to have a length of zero in some theories, second having a kind of &quot;open door&quot; creates tons of problems about atmosphere, wind and air pressure, things being carried through, etc.Spoiler for Hyperion: In there, the transfer is considered to be instantaneous, but the core is using the synapses of the people mid-transfer, so the time is not zero and the people exist at some point in time inside the portal. And when they have the deathwand bomb explode, they explode it inside the singularity, it's not like half explodes on one world and half on the other...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8432862, member: 7032025"] I like to use that argument in some cases, just be aware that this is only if magic does not take into account more local referentials. For example, in fiction, many magic systems are complex because the incantation depends on conditions, which are precisely that kind of thing, where you are, how humid the air is, the air pressure, etc. So while it can certainly be used in some settings, nothing says that long range teleportation magic does not take this into account, including other things like air pressure, etc. Exactly. And see above about conditions on spells in fiction, they might compensate for some things and not for others, it's really local rulings. First, don't think that anything specifies this. It can be that light goes in both directions, but matter is instantaneously transfered, but again you have to be careful, first a wormhole is only considered to have a length of zero in some theories, second having a kind of "open door" creates tons of problems about atmosphere, wind and air pressure, things being carried through, etc. Spoiler for Hyperion: In there, the transfer is considered to be instantaneous, but the core is using the synapses of the people mid-transfer, so the time is not zero and the people exist at some point in time inside the portal. And when they have the deathwand bomb explode, they explode it inside the singularity, it's not like half explodes on one world and half on the other... [/QUOTE]

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